Question about 8 out and channels, sounds, pads, tracks etc.

This may be stupid question, but yeah I dont know much about 8 out. I dont have it yet in my XL but im trying to learn ready, so I know how to use it when I get it.

So how it works..: is it possible to assing multiple pads(sounds) to go out of same hole of 8 out, when recording out to multitrack recorder?
For excample kick and snare to go out from same hole 1 to my recorders track 1 and/or maybe but all the drum bads in to same hole and all the samples pads in to same. If so, then how many pads can be assigned to same and is there a limit?
..or is it just so that you can assing only one pad to each "hole".
This is what I want to my recorder thru the 8 out/in (just an excample):
track 1: all kicks and snares
track 2: hihats etc
3: horns etc
,,,: main sample (all of the pads in to same track/channel)
...5: bass... and so on

I hope someone understands what Im saying (really really tired now and need to sleep) and I have some answers tomorrow when I wake up. Maybe I write this better then so its easier to understand

Yes it is totally possible to assign different pads to different outs. What you're describing is the actual purpose for the 8outs in the first place.

there is no limit to how many pads go to each output.

To get more specific about what everyone is saying: nothing is routed to the 8 outs to begin with. You will choose what pads you want assigned to the outs, in any combination and in any amount.

I think what you will find here is that most people assign the first few to kick drums, then next few to snares, hats, samples, etc., so that each instrument/frequency range can get mixed, EQ'd, and run through FX separately...it really just depends how much control you want to have over your mix and how you go about your mix downs.

Okey. Thanks for replies.

So I can record entire beat in one take?
Snares in to out 1
Kicks in to out 2
Hats in to out 3
,,what about samples? if i want them stereo, isnt it then out 4 and 5?
Extra samples (jazz horns and stuff) to out 6 and 7 (sometimes 2 separate monos and sometimes in stereo.
Bass to out 8.

Thats what i need basicly and how I have allways planned how to use 8 outs. Is it correct, can I do it in that way? Just one take to recorder and it is done. Does it work like that?
I have multitrack recorder that can record 12 tracks at same time, so I could even use second MPC or SP to rest of the tracks to add even more extra samples in to some part of the beat sometimes.

Rugged1 wrote: if i want them stereo, isnt it then out 4 and 5?
Extra samples (jazz horns and stuff) to out 6 and 7 (sometimes 2 separate monos and sometimes in stereo.
Bass to out 8.

the individual outs can be stereo pairs 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8.

you have the right idea about everything else, just try it out you will be pleased the 8 outs are designed exactly for what you are trying to do.

@Harmoncj: the individual outs can be stereo pairs 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8.

Thats what I meant with the "out 4 and 5". I think..? yeah stereo pairs is what I had in my mind.

So basicly 8 out is just like I thought about it. Now I just need to find one with good price.

1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8

these are the stereo pairs you get. minor clarification, you cannot get 4 and 5 together like you said. you have to use the one available.

it really makes you consider how important stereo sounds are (or are not) in the first place.

Lampdog wrote:If your sample is stereo you will be given the options of...
1/2
3/4
5/6
7/8
...
There is no way around this.

weeeeeelllllll (pulls up a cozy chair and snuggles next to the devil by his/her fire)....you could split yer stereo samples into two mono samples and then assign them to whichever mono out you like, then use the simult feature to trigger both samples at the same time.

always up for the challenge to find a way around

but yes the default way is more restrictive.

Lampdog wrote:If your sample is stereo you will be given the options of...
1/2
3/4
5/6
7/8

If your sample is mono you will be given the options of...
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8

There is no way around this.

Yeah, I understood that allready, when I wrote my last comment. When I listed what I want to do in what out, I didnt mean literally. It was more like counting the outs and how many I need them for what.
Not sure if I know everything about it yet.

So is this possible?:
1/2: sample
3/4 or sometimes just separate 3 and 4 without stereo: extra samples
5, 6, 7: Drums
8: bass
If yes, then I probably know most of I need.

The reason why i did start this threat, is because I allways thought that XL's 8 outs are about the track and not the pads. Then one day I found out that it is about pads and got confused and stressed how it will work. I think its all clear now.
Now I need just save some money to get it. I decised that im not going to do any beats before I get the 8outs installed, because i want my beats to "be in the same level".

Rugged1 wrote:The reason why i did start this threat, is because I allways thought that XL's 8 outs are about the track and not the pads. Then one day I found out that it is about pads and got confused and stressed how it will work. I think its all clear now.
Now I need just save some money to get it. I decised that im not going to do any beats before I get the 8outs installed, because i want my beats to "be in the same level".

i think that's a common misconception - but it really is so powerful being based on pads. i would go ahead and start making beats, you only use the 8-outs when tracking out and you'll just be able to tweak things better but you can get the beat done in the machine.

Lampdog wrote:Go ahead, make beats, tweak them to fit the 8outs later. "Same level" argument doesn't hold water. The mpc hardware mixer is in there, 8outs or not.

True, but the problem right now for me, is that I don't have anything to save the beats in to, so I can't really do anything now. I have stack of empty zips, but not zip drive. I have floppy drive, but not disks for that.. etc.. etc... I have a big stack of vinyls I have digged, waiting to get sampled and i really want to start working with them.
The situation i live in right now is kinda shitty. There will be lot of struggle to get the 8 outs and it will take some time. Im about to get the external zip drive soon as possible, so at least I can do something.
I planned to use the waiting time to train some better drum playing skills.
Of course I could do beats without the 8 outs at all, but I decide that Im not going to waste any samples anymore. I have done a lots of beats without 8 outs, but not anymore, because there is some things I can only do with them.