Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:45 pm
jpeg wrote:so is linux the most viable alternative?


I don't think it matters if it is developed with Juce, it can be compiled to run on multiple platforms from a single code base - Mac, Windows, Linux, Android and iOS.

https://www.juce.com/features

Pete has given talks about Juce, so I assume that's what he's using for the MPC Software

By eclipxe Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:13 pm
jpeg wrote:
eclipxe wrote:Or should I say, not done - meaning all of your favorite VSTs would have to cross compile to ARM. Very, very unlikely to happen anytime soon.


It should not matter which hardware processor is in the unit; cos the mpc software is running on windows 10.

so perhaps the hardware processor and be abstracted using virtual processors, but I dont think that is even necessary, the OS and the mpc software are compatible with vsts.

so I dont see the hardware being a factor, as long as this hardware supports windows.


That's not how it works. They're not going to virtualize x86 on the low powered ARM to run VSTs. Trust me on this, its not feasible and not going to happen.

The hardware is absolutely a factor and I can say with 100% certainty, it is not running Windows. General purpose VSTs will NOT work. Now, Akai might have cross compiled some of their VSTs (AiR's vsts) to work standalone and on ARM/Linux, but that is a stretch. I am almost certain you're just going to get sample playback when standalone, no VST.
By eclipxe Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:14 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:
jpeg wrote:so is linux the most viable alternative?


I don't think it matters if it is developed with Juce, it can be compiled to run on multiple platforms from a single code base - Mac, Windows, Linux, Android and iOS.

https://www.juce.com/features

Pete has given talks about Juce, so I assume that's what he's using for the MPC Software



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By jpeg Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:14 pm
eclipxe wrote:
jpeg wrote:
eclipxe wrote:Or should I say, not done - meaning all of your favorite VSTs would have to cross compile to ARM. Very, very unlikely to happen anytime soon.


That's not how it works. They're not going to virtualize x86 on the low powered ARM to run VSTs. Trust me on this, its not feasible and not going to happen.

The hardware is absolutely a factor and I can say with 100% certainty, it is not running Windows. General purpose VSTs will NOT work. Now, Akai might have cross compiled some of their VSTs (AiR's vsts) to work standalone and on ARM/Linux, but that is a stretch. I am almost certain you're just going to get sample playback when standalone, no VST.


Well according to da juce site it does support vsts:


Audio & plug-ins

Manage audio I/O, audio file reading and writing, and deploy all plugin formats. Build VST, VST3, AU, RTAS and AAX format plugins with ease, and host VST and AU plugins inside your own applications.


MIDI, MPE & OSC

JUCE provides full MIDI support, as well as the new Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression protocol, and Open Sound Control (OSC).
By eclipxe Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:05 pm
jpeg wrote:
Well according to da juce site it does support vsts:


Audio & plug-ins

Manage audio I/O, audio file reading and writing, and deploy all plugin formats. Build VST, VST3, AU, RTAS and AAX format plugins with ease, and host VST and AU plugins inside your own applications.


MIDI, MPE & OSC

JUCE provides full MIDI support, as well as the new Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression protocol, and Open Sound Control (OSC).


Yes, Juce apps can load VST, VST3, AU, RTAS, etc, but the plugin itself has to be compiled for the right platform. You can have a VST compiled for OS X - it won't work on Windows or Linux and vice versa. Most plugins today are only available on OS X and Windows... this will NOT work on an ARM system, even if they are in VST, AU, RTAS etc format. If a plugin manufacturer recompiles for ARM, then sure they might be able to work...
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By mr_debauch Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:32 pm
well... how much ram is not something that can be viewed the same way as the previous hardware mpcs... back then that ram was dedicated to sample time.... now it's probably system ram for android or what ever it will run on.