END OF THE MPC STANDALONE!!!

40Beatz wrote:I Guarantee if Akai Drops another MPC this Summer, Me and Half the people in this forum will Go out and buy it.

40Beatz wrote:I Guarantee if Akai Drops another MPC this Summer, Me and Half the people in this forum will Go out and buy it. Then The Other Half of us will wait til the 2nd Year of its existence, Pull the Trigger and get it because of Peer Pressure lol...

Bezo wrote:

Fanu wrote:See how Elektron are doing and tell me days of standalone are coming to an end.

I most DAWless vids I come across, there's an Elektron in the picture.

Unreallystic wrote:Come on, be real, everything is ultimately run by money, no one is dancing around that. Speaking *strictly* on phones, there is mildly truth in the yearly cycle being driven by money AT THIS POINT, but the extreme level of competition is what's driven the speed. Being first to market with real 5G is a thing right now for instance. Its what Samsung is trying to get to the flip phone so hard. There are constantly major things worth "updating the line up" with, but with that said - most folks don't update their phone every year - despite the release schedule. Most folks stick with the same phone for 3-4 years *bar an accident*.

Unfortunately, services have become a thing, I don't currently have office on my computers at home because my only discounted options involved a subscription. Even Roland is putting their ACB technology on the backburner as they push Roland Cloud. I don't doubt that Akai is looking for ways to implement services, and the most obvious one is a merging/meeting between the ideas of Splice & Roland Cloud, but more in-house a la AIR. If they had the capital and the hardware was up to it, they should target LANDR for integration as well.

Establish a stand-alone that doesn't require a computer, build in an easy way to get Samples & Synths (Service), provide a means to finish/polish the tracks (LANDR) (Service), and you then have created a livable ecosystem. I can't say how much I would believe in it holding up, but that's because I'm praying for subscription services and the US College System to both collapse (I got two kids, I'm worried about that haha).

However, I disagree with something you said at the end - the hardware is NOT solid. That is why they do need a spec bump at some point, it can't keep up with the needs of someone who would be willing to get services attached to the device. For "me" who samples his own instruments, does vocal chops, plays out some stuff on the integrated synths, and puts it together pretty straight up, the services aren't needed and the hardware is fine. For a large portion of people here and on FB (the unhappy minority is usually louder than the majority so I can't say most), they've pushed the hardware to the end already and wouldn't invest in a service.
- Unreall

Lampdog wrote:But, but, the 1% that dgaf about nukai products, what about them/me?

Frisbi wrote:I think Mpc was a good seller, otherwise they did not make such effort on updates.

Frisbi wrote:And I don't think they are competing with all the stuff you said. I am quite sure they understood there is a place on market which will grow, and it is the demand of standalone units, the return of 90s devices but much more powerful. I think

Frisbi wrote:Akai invested in the future, making a basic platform to develop in the next decade. They put out a big one (x), a portable one (live) and a dj one (force) to understand which appeals more to those customers.Then, in some years, when cpu will drop in prices, they will sum all in a good working reliable all-in-one gear.It's still in development man and we are and have been the beta testers.

Frisbi wrote:I guess Mpc X and Live will be produced for a couple of years at least, until they will be totally working and they will start with next level Mpc.Or maybe they are already working on it but first they want to reach a good level on the current Mpc generation before moving on.

Danoc wrote:lol lm that 1% that won't buy it.


My title is "END OF THE MPC STANDALONE"

Not MPC standalone/Controller, Digitakt etc.

Akai will not be in the playing field to put out multiple Standalones. Not tethered to a computer MPC.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Unreallystic wrote:Come on, be real, everything is ultimately run by money, no one is dancing around that. Speaking *strictly* on phones, there is mildly truth in the yearly cycle being driven by money AT THIS POINT, but the extreme level of competition is what's driven the speed. Being first to market with real 5G is a thing right now for instance. Its what Samsung is trying to get to the flip phone so hard. There are constantly major things worth "updating the line up" with, but with that said - most folks don't update their phone every year - despite the release schedule. Most folks stick with the same phone for 3-4 years *bar an accident*.

Unfortunately, services have become a thing, I don't currently have office on my computers at home because my only discounted options involved a subscription. Even Roland is putting their ACB technology on the backburner as they push Roland Cloud. I don't doubt that Akai is looking for ways to implement services, and the most obvious one is a merging/meeting between the ideas of Splice & Roland Cloud, but more in-house a la AIR. If they had the capital and the hardware was up to it, they should target LANDR for integration as well.

Establish a stand-alone that doesn't require a computer, build in an easy way to get Samples & Synths (Service), provide a means to finish/polish the tracks (LANDR) (Service), and you then have created a livable ecosystem. I can't say how much I would believe in it holding up, but that's because I'm praying for subscription services and the US College System to both collapse (I got two kids, I'm worried about that haha).

However, I disagree with something you said at the end - the hardware is NOT solid. That is why they do need a spec bump at some point, it can't keep up with the needs of someone who would be willing to get services attached to the device. For "me" who samples his own instruments, does vocal chops, plays out some stuff on the integrated synths, and puts it together pretty straight up, the services aren't needed and the hardware is fine. For a large portion of people here and on FB (the unhappy minority is usually louder than the majority so I can't say most), they've pushed the hardware to the end already and wouldn't invest in a service.
- Unreall

There is only 3 major players in the smartphone game. Samsung. Apple and Huawei. When I stated the hardware is solid, my point was, that it's not falling apart. As far as the internals, well...it's a tablet SOC you can only push it so hard.

Frisbi wrote:Ah ah only two now. Huawei has been sacrificed by the economic war of the orange man.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
Most people I know who bought them, did so for nostalgia/collecting. Other people bought them, to unbox on YouTube and make Tutorial videos. The rest bought them for continued education, live/productions use, Thee addicted to buying things crew, or trying to keep up with the Jones.

The rest are hard core MPC users. The Ride and Die. The live in the closet and don't wash for 5 years. The get off my lawn you computer kids. The I'm DAWLESS and EXTREME Vegan. The, we're only doing this the real way with: Vinyl, 6 seconds of sample time, broken needle, and USB Floppy drive..

Lampdog wrote:

40Beatz wrote:I Guarantee if Akai Drops another MPC this Summer, Me and Half the people in this forum will Go out and buy it.

But, but, the 1% that dgaf about nukai products, what about them/me?

40Beatz wrote:
Lol...Then you get to sit back and watch us 99% Dig in, and complain about the Shortcomings in the New MPC XXXtreme

40Beatz wrote:Lol...Then you get to sit back and watch us 99% Dig in, and complain about the Shortcomings in the New MPC XXXtreme