Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By Danoc Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:21 pm
:lol: :lol:

" I know it's New Year EVE but you have to lay off the drinks."

CHARLES YOU KNOW DAM WELL FRISBI IS NOT DRINKING THIS EARLY, STOP IT! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bymember04959388 Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:28 pm
@ Eyalc

Yeah that's the crazy thing of Akai.
They have the most powerful standalone on the market, but they work months for splice and ableton.
Then they come out with a clip-launcher Force that was not necessary at all from my point of view, given that last 6 months Mpc development was just stopped to develop a very unready clip launcher that has to rely on a 3rd party daw to work as promised.
Then they put this 6 months of work into Mpc to let people think they are working to update Mpc.
My super guess is that they had something new in mind for Namm 2020 and just let Mpc as it was.
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By Danoc Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:33 pm
@Charles, ok, lets lok at this.

Not saying an i5 or i7 but a decent intel chip with dope mother board, 4GB ram [optional to 256GB]. Optional, to blow it to a maxium, minimum to maximum. I think that would make people happy. Just make things optional so if people like me just want to keep a minimum to just do drums, I'm good, to people that wanna go DAW like they can. If things are made optional then people have a right to upgrade their MPCs, and plus Akai could make some money.
By CharlesRandolph Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:34 pm
Mind of an Enthusiast. This is one reason, I feel Akai Pro should make, MPC as it's own company. When people say Akai Pro, most are talking about MPC and when they say MPC, they don't mean Akai Pro

Eyalc wrote:Except that's not how Akai spent almost of all of 2.x thinking about it, unfortunately. I think they really believed they could create a DAW-like experience, until people started asking for things like PDC. They've been distracted from things that would really make this platform a game-changer. And I can't stand the term "game changer". But assuming they own the IP to the 4k / z8 engine, that's exactly what they could have (and should have) created - a game changing MPC. I agree with the earlier post that they haven't been able to accomplish what JJ has accomplished with less hardware resources, and that's a screaming testament to where the platform is at.

Now don't get me wrong - I love the MPC experience, and I didn't buy it for what it could have been (though just because I buy a car, doesn't mean I don't want it to be better if the potential is there). But the MPC development is frustrating to watch, especially when someone like JJ is churning out OS updates for LONG-retired MPC models, and adding functionality that helps with the actual manipulation and composition of samples, sequences, programs and songs.
By CharlesRandolph Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:41 pm
Danoc wrote:@Charles, ok, lets lok at this.

Not saying an i5 or i7 but a decent intel chip with dope mother board, 4GB ram [optional to 256GB]. Optional, to blow it to a maxium, minimum to maximum. I think that would make people happy. Just make things optional so if people like me just want to keep a minimum to just do drums, I'm good, to people that wanna go DAW like they can. If things are made optional then people have a right to upgrade their MPCs, and plus Akai could make some money.


I feel you 100% and I'm always for modular because it gives a longer life to the machines. People are still updates MPC 60 because of that very reason. Akai Pro should make great machine at a break even price and make up the difference charging for high quality software updates. Not cripple the machine and charge for stuff that was already in there.

The MPC is a lifestyle.....it's been in my family for half my life. This is what they don't understand.
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By Danoc Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:07 pm
If they were smart they wold build a new machine with options. If you limit a product the customer could feel like they are a slave, and being controlled. We agree.

CharlesRandolph wrote:I feel you 100% and I'm always for modular because it gives a longer life to the machines. People are still updates MPC 60 because of that very reason. Akai Pro should make great machine at a break even price and make up the difference charging for high quality software updates. Not cripple the machine and charge for stuff that was already in there.

The MPC is a lifestyle.....it's been in my family for half my life. This is what they don't understand.
Bymember04959388 Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:13 pm
Hey I am going to party a bit.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!!;

Will this be the Mpc year? Ahah
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By Danoc Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:13 pm
Don't ask us ask Akai lol
Hell they ain't even Akai no more.
By Eyalc Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:25 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:Mind of an Enthusiast. This is one reason, I feel Akai Pro should make, MPC as it's own company. When people say Akai Pro, most are talking about MPC and when they say MPC, they don't mean Akai Pro

Eyalc wrote:Except that's not how Akai spent almost of all of 2.x thinking about it, unfortunately. I think they really believed they could create a DAW-like experience, until people started asking for things like PDC. They've been distracted from things that would really make this platform a game-changer. And I can't stand the term "game changer". But assuming they own the IP to the 4k / z8 engine, that's exactly what they could have (and should have) created - a game changing MPC. I agree with the earlier post that they haven't been able to accomplish what JJ has accomplished with less hardware resources, and that's a screaming testament to where the platform is at.

Now don't get me wrong - I love the MPC experience, and I didn't buy it for what it could have been (though just because I buy a car, doesn't mean I don't want it to be better if the potential is there). But the MPC development is frustrating to watch, especially when someone like JJ is churning out OS updates for LONG-retired MPC models, and adding functionality that helps with the actual manipulation and composition of samples, sequences, programs and songs.


Truth
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By NearTao Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:31 pm
Frisbi wrote: they come out with a clip-launcher Force that was not necessary at all from my point of view, given that last 6 months Mpc development was just stopped to develop a very unready clip launcher that has to rely on a 3rd party daw to work as promised.


Yeah, the force seemed like a good idea to me... but it appears to have been poorly executed. Time stretch is a *critical* feature in clip launching, and they couldn't get it right.

This is why if I'm going to work with a loop pack on the MPC I chop it rather than try and warp, pattern, or whatever. It's worth the time investment and you get a much better and more controlled result.
Bymember04959388 Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:45 pm
NearTao wrote:
Frisbi wrote: they come out with a clip-launcher Force that was not necessary at all from my point of view, given that last 6 months Mpc development was just stopped to develop a very unready clip launcher that has to rely on a 3rd party daw to work as promised.


Yeah, the force seemed like a good idea to me... but it appears to have been poorly executed. Time stretch is a *critical* feature in clip launching, and they couldn't get it right.

This is why if I'm going to work with a loop pack on the MPC I chop it rather than try and warp, pattern, or whatever. It's worth the time investment and you get a much better and more controlled result.

I slice manually and assign slices to a program on Mpc.
Warp on standalone is unuseable.
By Cockdiesel Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:49 pm
The algorithm on the force for warping was a bit better from what I recall. I don’t use that feature much but I put it through the paces when I got to some degree. I’d say it was on par with the pioneer algo but still not great.
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By mr_debauch Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:34 am
i just don't get why anyone wants to turn the live (or mpc x) into a touch screen controller to use with your laptop to perform with ableton. unless i am missing something here.... the people in the board room who gave that the OK are the same people who okayed the timbrewolf so why should i be surprised.