Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By Unreallystic Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:11 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:I started with 4 track cassette tapes, so anything over 24 tracks is still incredible. :lol:

I still remember my brother in arms bringing his Fostex 4-track with 60-minute tapes over my crib, and us hanging a Shure SM58, upside from the light fixture in my room, looked like a teenage version of "Mama Said Knock You Out".

The whole "we came from worse" thing is a poor argument though. I wrote reports on my 386 as a kid using Word Perfect and printing on a dot-matrix printer, it worked, but no parts of me want to go back to those times. My first USB interface didn't have phantom power so I had to buy a pre-amp for my mic. Progression is a thing, and expecting a bit more over time is fair.
- Unreall
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By Lampdog Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:57 pm
Unreallystic wrote:Word Perfect


Damn, he took it back to Word Perfect?! Word Star was my joint.
By CharlesRandolph Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:35 pm
Bezo wrote:I get it. I'm not knocking anyone's appreciation for existing advancement. The satisfaction or desire for things to stick at any point in time baffles me though. Folks get comfortable with something and berate others for wanting advancement to continue.


That's just how some people are. Some want more and some want to stay the same. I try to see the best in all situations. I've worked with massive track counts and we usually end up grouping/bussing to 8 or 12 tracks. Because trying to mix 200+ tracks is insane.

I've also worked with full bands and went up to 24 tracks, and end up grouping/bussing to 4 or 8 tracks. :lol: I had the live and X and returned them because, they were not ready for my purpose or I was not ready for it's purpose. It took them 2 and half years and many of the bugs are worked out, but many of them are not.

I'm really interested in reading information from those, who took a deeper dive into the functions of the machines. Just like speed runners and completionists who know, every crevice of a video game. In the last couple of year, there's been some cool tricks, but most of things are just surface.

However, when people do find interesting work around, they want to charge people for the information. Which negates the reason of having a message board. I know, MPC Tutor sales the MPC BIBLE, but he's also serving a educational functions, that Akai Pro themselves do not serve and I find value in that. (Truth, not Kissing A$$ or looking for Job.)

I know people tend to think, that their workflow is unique, but for most advance users. We all in some shape of form work the same way, because we optimize and optimize are workflow, until we've trimmed off all the fat. That's why I made the statement about, the standalone time stretch.

Some people don't like it because it alters the sounds, yet some people do like because it, alters the sound. If they clean up the algorithm, it could destroy the imperfect unique sonics that the machine produces. Just like how some user like the jitter and random timing of the SP 1200's sequencer. While for some it a pain in the neck.

But it's the flaws of the SP 1200, that people celebrate now.
By CharlesRandolph Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:18 pm
Unreallystic wrote:I still remember my brother in arms bringing his Fostex 4-track with 60-minute tapes over my crib, and us hanging a Shure SM58, upside from the light fixture in my room, looked like a teenage version of "Mama Said Knock You Out".

The whole "we came from worse" thing is a poor argument though. I wrote reports on my 386 as a kid using Word Perfect and printing on a dot-matrix printer, it worked, but no parts of me want to go back to those times. My first USB interface didn't have phantom power so I had to buy a pre-amp for my mic. Progression is a thing, and expecting a bit more over time is fair.
- Unreall



I did not say I came from worst. I stated that, "I started with 4 track cassette tapes, so anything over 24 tracks is still incredible." Which means, I know how to work with less if I choose too. In fact many of us were making better recordings then, people who had a 24 track studio with all the gear. They had the gear but not the ears.

I agree progression is a thing, but that usually hits people, who are buying gear that is good enough for their right now purpose. Instead of buying gear, that will future proof and fulfill their growing appetite. I do remember the dot matrix printers, but that's why my father bought a Laser printer as soon as possible. :nod: Charging, 10 cent a page, was good money back then. :)
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By Danoc Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:52 pm
:lol: :lol: l had the Roland VS 880, it was dope.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
FORMATTING ADAT tapes to record was the longest process in history. :nod:
By Eyalc Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:38 pm
Danoc wrote::lol: :lol: l had the Roland VS 880, it was dope.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
FORMATTING ADAT tapes to record was the longest process in history. :nod:


I had one too. Classic. Wish I had kept it just for keepsake. In the grand scheme of things I probably didn’t sell it for anything worthwhile.
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By Danoc Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:54 pm
Bezo wrote:I get it. I'm not knocking anyone's appreciation for existing advancement. The satisfaction or desire for things to stick at any point in time baffles me though. Folks get comfortable with something and berate others for wanting advancement to continue.

Salute FACTS! :nod:
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By Monotremata Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:24 am
Lampdog wrote:
Unreallystic wrote:Word Perfect


Damn, he took it back to Word Perfect?! Word Star was my joint.


Man you guys and your fancy stuff. Appleworks on an Apple IIc, and that shit was the BOMB until I finally convinced my parents to get me a PC in like 92 by the time I was almost done with school hah.
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By Danoc Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:49 am
Eyalc wrote:Haha - I’m getting one for my studio and shooting a video.

:shock: OMG!!!
Please tell me you're joking.
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By Menco Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:01 am
Monotremata wrote:
Lampdog wrote:[quote=Damn, he took it back to Word Perfect?! Word Star was my joint.


Man you guys and your fancy stuff. Appleworks on an Apple IIc, and that shit was the BOMB until I finally convinced my parents to get me a PC in like 92 by the time I was almost done with school hah.


I also messed around on Word Perfect. Brown screen and orange letters :lol:
Broke down on us before I reached high school. Remember writing essays by hand in 97 and on the typewriter in 99.
Never had too fancy stuff when growing up, still don’t need the latest and greatest. But at the same time I realy love my new 2019 MacbookPro I bought last week :nod:
By Eyalc Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:56 pm
Danoc wrote:
Eyalc wrote:Haha - I’m getting one for my studio and shooting a video.

:shock: OMG!!!
Please tell me you're joking.


A plant? Haha - yeah, won’t be buying one.

About the MPC One, saw a couple videos online reviewing it. Looks like a good entry level MPC. Hope they evolve the Live a bit to marry it to the X and One aesthetic.