Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By Lumi Tue May 12, 2020 6:43 pm
That would be the right way.
To have a standalone platform where you can buy synths and effects from 3rd party developers.
That would be a huge step forward.
How is Xpand by the way?
Never thought about it.
Any good?
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By EnochLight Tue May 12, 2020 6:54 pm
Lumi wrote:That would be the right way.
To have a standalone platform where you can buy synths and effects from 3rd party developers.
That would be a huge step forward.
How is Xpand by the way?
Never thought about it.
Any good?


Compared to modern synths like Serum, Spire, Dune 3, etc - Xpand is laughably anemic and dated. But for a rompler, it does have some usable content inside. That said, Hype is far more advanced compared to Xpand, which is strange that they would introduce Xpand before they did Hype since Hype is already on the Force (and yes, I know about the content issue, but that can be got around).
By Lumi Tue May 12, 2020 7:02 pm
EnochLight wrote:
Lumi wrote:That would be the right way.
To have a standalone platform where you can buy synths and effects from 3rd party developers.
That would be a huge step forward.
How is Xpand by the way?
Never thought about it.
Any good?


Compared to modern synths like Serum, Spire, Dune 3, etc - Xpand is laughably anemic and dated. But for a rompler, it does have some usable content inside. That said, Hype is far more advanced compared to Xpand, which is strange that they would introduce Xpand before they did Hype since Hype is already on the Force (and yes, I know about the content issue, but that can be got around).

Yeah at the end I rely on my Mc101 for synths, I just use some Bass lines with Bass synth.
It would be more exciting for me if they sell effects from 3rd parties, maybe some granular effect or stutter on Mpc would be great.
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By EnochLight Tue May 12, 2020 7:09 pm
Lumi wrote:It would be more exciting for me if they sell effects from 3rd parties, maybe some granular effect or stutter on Mpc would be great.


The bizarre thing is that InMusic owns Air Music, so it's not like they don't have a team of devs to draw from to make that happen. :lol: And I'd love to see some granular effects on the MPC in standalone - hell yes!

Unless all of Air Music's devs have been pulled to work on firmware and the MPC desktop utility? Beats me - I have no idea what Air Music is up to these days. Not even sure when was the last time they released a VST plugin that was relevant. Can't remember them ever making a "top" list in any music review site publication. This isn't a knock against Air; I'm just wondering what it is they do.
By Lumi Tue May 12, 2020 7:30 pm
EnochLight wrote:
Lumi wrote:It would be more exciting for me if they sell effects from 3rd parties, maybe some granular effect or stutter on Mpc would be great.


The bizarre thing is that InMusic owns Air Music, so it's not like they don't have a team of devs to draw from to make that happen. :lol: And I'd love to see some granular effects on the MPC in standalone - hell yes!

Unless all of Air Music's devs have been pulled to work on firmware and the MPC desktop utility? Beats me - I have no idea what Air Music is up to these days. Not even sure when was the last time they released a VST plugin that was relevant. Can't remember them ever making a "top" list in any music review site publication. This isn't a knock against Air; I'm just wondering what it is they do.

I used to use Air fx bundle on protools, I think it's a very good one, nothing fancy or complicated, but detailed and very useable.
So I was very happy when they put it on Mpc. I have nothing to complain about it, i don't know any groovebox with pro quality effects like Mpc- maybe Roland ones, but they are Boss legacy so it's normal.
I just would like to have something more granular, like redpanda particle or something like that.
I guess Air has the skill to do it.
Or also a granular synth like Tasty Chips, where I could put my own samples.
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By Bezo Tue May 12, 2020 7:32 pm
KaoticShock wrote:This thread is very interesting. On gearslutz there is a thread about the Live MKII where users have found information about future updates from the contents of the disk image file. The link is here https://github.com/TheKikGen/MPC-LiveXp ... /README.md and here https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... st14727520 In the thread they mention that 3 new plugins also appear in the binary MPC 2.72:
MPC:DrumSynth
MPC:Xpand
MPC:OrganB3,
and should therefore be part of a future release. It would be incredible if we get the plugins in the pictures and Xpand. A dream come true.

I like Xpand. I have some good organ programs but a plugin version would be welcomed. I've never been into drum synths, but I'll check it out.
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By EnochLight Tue May 12, 2020 7:55 pm
Lumi wrote:I used to use Air fx bundle on protools, I think it's a very good one, nothing fancy or complicated, but detailed and very useable.
So I was very happy when they put it on Mpc. I have nothing to complain about it, i don't know any groovebox with pro quality effects like Mpc- maybe Roland ones, but they are Boss legacy so it's normal.
I just would like to have something more granular, like redpanda particle or something like that.
I guess Air has the skill to do it.
Or also a granular synth like Tasty Chips, where I could put my own samples.


I've actually come around to Air FX on the MPC standalone. At first I was a bit critical, because for outsiders that don't use Pro Tools like me, we haven't seen much from Air that impresses that much, IMHO.

But after spending the last year with my MPC Live, I have come to realize that the standalone effects are literally second to none compared to other hardware groove boxes out there. Seriously, they're just great. I take back everything I said about them that was scathing.

I really hope we do see something granular at some point. If anyone could pull it off, it's them. Just don't know how realistic it is since we can't even get them to finish Hype or Xpand or Drum Synth for the MPC's at this point. :lol:
By jpeg Wed May 13, 2020 2:01 pm
welp the first batch of plugins was pretty much trash

hope the new batch have some nice tonal quality; the electric looked good and sounded ok but was a pretty boring sound pallet.

the other two sounded really bland to my ear; hopefully the new batch are more interesting with better presets and just a more interesting tonal quality.

I also hope we have the option to uninstall content cos the factory sounds and the current 3 plugins are pretty shit id rather i could remove them and free up that space.

Akai need to get with some proper vst instruments providers; rather than rely on they own in house devs far as vsts
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By Danoc Wed May 13, 2020 2:31 pm
:worthy:
Been saying that! A scaled down Omnisphere, Serum, Roland SRX Series (DOPE)!, some compamies like that. Add a midi keyboard and go bananas!

jpeg wrote:welp the first batch of plugins was pretty much trash

hope the new batch have some nice tonal quality; the electric looked good and sounded ok but was a pretty boring sound pallet.

the other two sounded really bland to my ear; hopefully the new batch are more interesting with better presets and just a more interesting tonal quality.

I also hope we have the option to uninstall content cos the factory sounds and the current 3 plugins are pretty **** id rather i could remove them and free up that space.

Akai need to get with some proper vst instruments providers; rather than rely on they own in house devs far as vsts
By jpeg Wed May 13, 2020 3:59 pm
yeah i would like to get some roland srx sounds and or some triton sounds Akai needs to approach them and get them and try license they vst's to use in mpc cos those will have a low memory foot print.