Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By SCOOBY Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:59 pm
ok newbie here lookin at gettin an MPC60.

some questions to ask you guys

1. What is the max stereo sampling time?I heard it was 26 seconds or somethin....

2. in theory if i sampled an instrumental break of say 4 bars on another sampler....
then pitched it up say...
three octaves...sample it into the mpc60 could i then retrieve my sample
and pitch it down 3 octaves to retain it to it's original Pitch/tempo....
in doin this would it still hold the same clarity(in the term clarity i dont mean bit rate...i know it will have sampled at the 12-bit rate into the mpc60) or would it sound messed up coz i pitched it down??

3. Would a SCSI 100meg Iomega drive be compatible...(the one i have is 50 Pin)

Thanks

Scoob

By elmacaco Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:35 pm
Max stereo sampling time is 13.1 seconds, and you have to sample Left and right separately or import them from the MPC editor.

I never use stereo sampling.

If you do get a 60, you'll want the 3.10 OS upgrade and the Marion Scsi board, ($450 to upgrade if you get a stock 60) This will let you use your Zip drive if you get the right cable (50 to 25 pin).

yes, you can pitch it up and save sample time, but not 3 octaves, the 60 can only pitch down 1 octave. also with OS 3.10 you get time compression, which will make your sounds take up half the space, giving you 52 seconds of sample time effectively, but when you use the compression, you lose the ability to pitch the sample down. Or you can do it where you can still pitch it down half an octave.

By SCOOBY Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:39 pm
Hey thanks el...

ok here is the thing i have a yamaha rs7000

if i sample a phrase on the 60 at 12 bit
then resample it on the rs7000at 16 bit 44.1khz
will it retain the grittyness of the 60's 12 bit?

any ideas?

Peace

Scoob

By elmacaco Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:12 pm
If you have an RS and know the sequencing well, then you don't really need a 60. The RS is a beast, but I don't know much about how it sequences, I hear it's good but different.

What you should do is pair it with a rack sampler that is 12 bit and sequence it with the RS, or sample from it to the RS.

The RS itself can sound gritty, it has a really interesting sampler, full featured as any really, and I think it has a lo fi effect that might get the results you are after.

Seriously, read the manual (all 400 pages of it!!) and keep digging into the RS, cuz it can do a whole lot of stuff that will keep you busy for years.

By SCOOBY Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:48 am
any idea which rack samplers i could look at?

i heard EMU do rack samplers that have bit crunchers

...i tried to use the resample function on the rs thru the lo-fi fx section but it give's this weird kinda tubey sound (think busta rhymes "light your ass on fire" drumloop....which is nice if ya want that kinda sound...but it's not the grit i am after) there is a lo-fi fx think which is ok but it sounds too fuzzy at times ya know

Peace

Scoob
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By pieuvre Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:55 am
Emu first line samplers are the s###t ( EIV , E6400 , E64 ) , just sample to 22khz and that's it .