What kind of compressor is everyone using?

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binger0 wrote:well inform him. Im still waiting... give me an example of when to use compression scott...

ok... an example
say you got some singin chick and you record some vocals but sometimes her vocals is quiet and sometimes a bit too loud, and sometimes you cant hear her in the mix, you would use compression then
or for anythin else like that
theres a example
happy now?

if you had a choice between these two, what would u all go for?

fmr rnc, or a dbx 166xl ?

ive herd some dope ish about the rnc, though..

Binger cuttin you some

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your sorta right.
Compression has 3 diff usages.
imma explain this first. Compression mainly uses a threshold, like a line, that when the sound hits that line volume wise, it starts to work. Now the ratio is how much compression starts working when it goes past the threshold. Attack is how quick it starts to work, and release is how long it holds for.

now the 3 applications of compression break down like this.
the first usage is while recording. Say u are recording a singer and once and a while she will sing to loud. Compression puts this shelf there and when she hits it, it will tame it. same thing for insturments and drums.


the second use is in the mix. Say u have a guitar that is too low in the mix, and the rest of the instruments are just right, but u cant raise the volume of the guitar becasue it will be too loud. So u put the threshold there so u can effectivly raise the lower part of the sound without worrying bout the upper shelf clipping. It puts a cieling on it so u can rasie the volume without the louder parts of the sound clippin cause they are kept at bay.

Now the 3rd part of compression is the mastering stage. U use this to raise the whole volume of the track without clipping it. So it appears more full and loud. By putting a threhold there its like a wall that when shit goes past it it gets squashed. So u can effectivly make it louder without blowing out speakers or whatnot.

and that is compression 101. Instead of grilling cats about it, inform them scott. Casue dude apparently doesnt know what it does and is. But now he does.

Compression is a tool though. Use it when needed. Alot of times cats squash the dynmaics out of samples/songs/drums due to compression. U have to know when to use it. I honestly never use it.

elmacaco wrote:Binger cuttin you some

stir fry is the way to get the ebeef just right. U gotta be careful casue some cats are too tender.

mr rnc, or a dbx 166xl eh?

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i have the 266xl its very nice but have heard the 166xl isnt half as good and that the fmr is better than the 266xl anyway-

greg

sorry for the late response but yes i know what compression is. i dont rely on it to make my tracks better. ive just always used software to make my music and was kinda hesitant to venture into all that jazz. but now, everyone is talking about 'compress this, compress that" so i thought i might be missing out on something. but i guess if im satisfied with the way my music sounds now then i really dont need to wonder about compression. i mean, i guess i cant speak on it unless i know the 3 major fundamentals and philosophy's behind it tho. (Note the sarcastic text). lol im just playin tho. thats why i asked...because i am uniformed.

i was trying to help u, not treat u like a newbie. But if u want to take it that way so be it.

beetjunkeeee wrote:if you had a choice between these two, what would u all go for?

fmr rnc, or a dbx 166xl ?

ive herd some dope ish about the rnc, though..

Very simply put, the RNC is fantastic at 'invisible' gain control (especially in 'super nice mode'), which means it's good for mix or subgroup compression if you don't want to hear it working, and great if you use real instrument or vocal recordings (as opposed to samples). The 166xl is known for it's 'punchy' sound and you can make it pump, meaning you can hear it working. Works well on drums (both individual and grouped), and bass.

Keep in mind either unit can do both, and the uses I mentioned are 'including, but not limited to'. etc. They're both good, but different. See what fits you.

binger0 wrote:your sorta right.
Compression has 3 diff usages.
imma explain this first. Compression mainly uses a threshold, like a line, that when the sound hits that line volume wise, it starts to work. Now the ratio is how much compression starts working when it goes past the threshold. Attack is how quick it starts to work, and release is how long it holds for.

now the 3 applications of compression break down like this.
the first usage is while recording. Say u are recording a singer and once and a while she will sing to loud. Compression puts this shelf there and when she hits it, it will tame it. same thing for insturments and drums.


the second use is in the mix. Say u have a guitar that is too low in the mix, and the rest of the instruments are just right, but u cant raise the volume of the guitar becasue it will be too loud. So u put the threshold there so u can effectivly raise the lower part of the sound without worrying bout the upper shelf clipping. It puts a cieling on it so u can rasie the volume without the louder parts of the sound clippin cause they are kept at bay.

Now the 3rd part of compression is the mastering stage. U use this to raise the whole volume of the track without clipping it. So it appears more full and loud. By putting a threhold there its like a wall that when **** goes past it it gets squashed. So u can effectivly make it louder without blowing out speakers or whatnot.

and that is compression 101. Instead of grilling cats about it, inform them scott. Casue dude apparently doesnt know what it does and is. But now he does.

Compression is a tool though. Use it when needed. Alot of times cats squash the dynmaics out of samples/songs/drums due to compression. U have to know when to use it. I honestly never use it.

Bing, that's a nice definition, def better than what i could've given, wanna help them out with limiting and expanding?

now u gotta school me on that ish. haha. Im just gettin into that shit now. Any insights would be appreciated.

exapnding think of reverese compression to keep noise levels down....limiting think of 0db threshold with a ratio of 1:infinty- ie it will never get louder than 0db...

greg

binger hate to call you out but...


you're describing limiting for the most part
(referring to the vocal tracking scenario)

limiting and compression are the same with one exception.....
ratio

when using a limiter the signal is cut once it hits the threshold, a compressor nicely brings its down

if you set your compressor's threshold so that is always being engaged you are making the dynamic range smaller, thus compressing the signal

compression, limiting, and expanding are all related (dynamic processing)
you cant explain one without understanding its relationship to the others

some good info in this thread