Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By research Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:34 pm
Shure-M447's and nothing but! I've tried others but nothing compares.
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By mpc4000xl Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:38 pm
research wrote:Shure-M447's and nothing but! I've tried others but nothing compares.



YO They Did Something when they made that Needle It's Like that SM58 or SM57 mic NOT Expensive but Still Impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By nyst8 Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:50 pm
now this question(not to jack the thread....is it the cartridge......or is it the stylus......which one makes "the difference" as to why some are better?
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By binger0 Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:57 pm
well basically both. u need the cart to power the stylus. So i think they both are dependent on quality. The cart is like an amp that powers the stylus, so they both have to be good. But i think it comes down stylus in the long run.
i have the shure m447's casue i scratch. but if u want a real nice sampling cart u should look into the higher end audiophile ones.

By Man VS Machine Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:11 pm
Ok, this is what I decided on One M447 mounted on a techniques head shell...... I only need one for now sense I'm just learning how to scratch. I also bought a shure M97xe audiofile cartridge and a technigues head shell to mount it on just for sampling record.

I purchsed at turntablelabs.com at a Total price with shipping of 215.03.

By elmacaco Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:36 am
I constantly rewind when sampling, I got that DJ craze needle, I don't know much about needles, but my boy hit me with a stanton discmaster II, no idea if it's good or not, but I'll try it.

By Man VS Machine Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:50 pm
I wouldnt back cue on those Mx7e9^^^



I know right, I will have to train myself so as not to forget
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By graynote Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:30 pm
M44-7's...

DEEP bass sounds and CLEAN clean CLEAN quality...

By ugly_face Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:04 pm
Even though I use them, I dont think M447s are the best for sampling. They are meant for scratch djs so they roll off some of the lows. The very best needles to use for sampling are needles meant for audiophiles, they arent compressed like dj needles so they sound a lot more clean and open.

If you want your samples to hit and sound big, get an audiophile cartridge.

By peezie Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:16 pm
IMHO, 447's are far from being true and flat. Yes, they are sticky, yes they are loud as hell, but there is a tradeoff. I like using these carts to sample drum breaks but nothing else. 447 muddies up the mids and makes the highs annoyingly lispy. Try listening to a same recording on a cd and on vinyl with 447. Immediate difference. Ive been using shures for years and I used to bug out when i hear a same record with different needles and hear all the nuances i never heard thru these shures. Cheaper needles(stanton 500) dont stick as well and may eat your vinyl if too much weight is used, but they sound good for what it is. I wouldnt use anything else for scratching, but for sampling, shures dont pass the test.