Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By jbplaya Sun May 01, 2005 9:46 pm
Hey, I'm trying to record my synth. In the manual they told me to set my gain as high as as it shouldbe to gain the best S/N ratio without allowing the over-level indicators to light up, or basically go over peak. I can do this just fine, but the problem is I get alot of feedback in my samples. Well as an MPC owner before the 4000, the simple answer would be to lower your rec gain level, but I'm wondering if that will affect the quality of my keygroup samples in the regards that it will make them seem low and far away? Or should I just record at the highest rec gain level possible and then some how the 4000 filters let me filter the feedback out? By the way I'm sampling from the analog outputs of my Motif into the analog of my 4000 at 24 bits if that helps

And also, when you pro's sample your synths for keygroups, do you sample the same note at different velocities, or do you just sample one note and let the MPC adjust the velocity?

And last, on the original tab in the recording page, I have no clue what I should start sampling my lowest note on the keyboard, which is the low A natural. I would think 117/ A 7? Both manuals give you no clue, unless I missed it.

I've had other MPC's in the past, but sampling synths is completely new to me. Any tips on what notes to sample for an 88 key to retain it's highest possible timbre would also be appreciated. Thanks.
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By Rob Mon May 02, 2005 5:53 am
Regarding the feedback, switch of the Monitoring in the Record page. You are sampling the MPC's output again (and again...).

By jbplaya Mon May 02, 2005 6:23 am
Thanks for the tip Rob. After hours of trying to figure out what the hell was going on, I looked at my Motif and discovered I had the volume real low. Yes, I am a dumbass.

Still wondering if I should sample at different velocities, where in the original tab should I sample the lowest A natural, and tips on what notes to sample to maintain the highest timbre?

If no one helps I guess I'll try through trial and error, but I was really hoping the manual would go more in depth about sampling synths seeing as how this is a professional sampler. Maybe I missed something.
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By Rob Mon May 02, 2005 6:41 am
Whether or not to sample for velocity layers depends on the source sound, and the amount of time you have available. ;)

If the source sound does not change its timbre when played softer or louder, or only slightly, you can try to sample for a single velocity layer. The mpc will of course play the sound louder if you hit the keys harder.

Once you have your samples in a program, you could apply a little lowpass filtering to all samples, and have the filter open (to reveal the original sound) when you play harder.

But if your source sound changes dramatically depending on velocity (like a piano or a snare drum) you might want to try to sample for at least two velocity layers.

Btw, there is software on the market that samples your synth for you, I think it even supports velocities. I forgot the names though, but it's in the archives. These apps sample your synth on a computer, and afterwards you import the samples in the mpc and make a program.

By MaZe Mon May 02, 2005 3:06 pm
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT PROGRAM THIS IS!!! :)

MaZe
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By Rob Mon May 02, 2005 6:51 pm
PM Renegadebliss. He's knows both apps.

By jbplaya Mon May 02, 2005 7:35 pm
If I'm not mistaken, I think it was called chainer. I know for a fact someone said this sampled soft synths, but I don't know if it does hardware though. Or it could be another program altogether. Anyway, here's the link http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html

By MaZe Mon May 02, 2005 7:40 pm
Chanier is just for VSTs and I found the hardware samplers in a search, but, they all seem to be vaporware.

MaZe