Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc

By VanFanel Tue May 10, 2005 2:52 am
This is wrong...really REALLY wrong...but oh so right...no....I...can't....help myself...the breaks....are too strong....

By pad-ophiliac Tue May 10, 2005 7:50 am
Really. who gives a f*ckin sh*t about where your samples come from and why? please people. if you make a beat with any of those sounds its not like anyone would be able to say "oh man hes a punk, he didn't even get sample that from vinyl" really, maybe i'm missing something and someone can fill me in but to me a sound is a sound and they all start out as a vibration so what's the **** difference. if you like the dusty warmth of vinyl then sample some whitenoise and layer it in as a track. other than that i would see it as limiting myself to only certain outlets for audio and as a producer thats the last thing i want to do. bottom line, if it sounds good i will pick it up ($/freeDL) and use it.

By Frankly Tue May 10, 2005 8:37 am
all ima say is those who have dug for these and spent money for these records wont be happy
By simcity Tue May 10, 2005 8:53 am
And yeah, a sound is a sound, thats true. But its about exploring music in general. going out and finding new shit in the process. I found all my hot shit from looking for breaks, and my music sensabilities have grown from this.

And also, its about setting some restrictions on yourself. If you live in a certain area, I think its cool to have a reginal sound. The sound of the music around you. Thats whats ill. Not some international trove of beats that every one has access to.

to each his own, no disrepect to those who do what they gotta do -- but don't sh*t on somebody elses attitude and ethic. consider the fact that most other musicians have spent as much time thinking about what they are doing as you have.
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By dubmunkey Tue May 10, 2005 10:00 am
Really. who gives a f*ckin sh*t about where your samples come from and why?
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agreed pad- these guys are like the e-muso equivilent of the guitar nerd- oh i only play amercian strats not jap or mexican, the rest of the world cares not...

greg
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By dubmunkey Tue May 10, 2005 10:03 am
all ima say is those who have dug for these and spent money for these records wont be happy
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why? its not like they can download the vinyl from the link- its just an audio clip- i think peeps dig not just for samples but for some sort of strange authentication in that peeps are still buying records with breaks that have beebn absolutly caned- amen anyone? and also some peeps only want the original pressing which cant really have anything to do with its sampling potential- therefore those you mentioned wont be bothered as part of the point of digging is owning the original record not just getting it for its sampling potential

greg
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By Penfold Tue May 10, 2005 11:39 am
what dude! 'free sh1t' is my middle name!
had to install Download Accelerator so it can download the whole page in one go. Bucket Loads of breaks here, most of them though i got on vinyl and break cd's like Ubiquity and Monkey Break, Diggin Etc, but hey the more the better!
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By Cheech Tue May 10, 2005 12:09 pm
dubmunkey wrote:Really. who gives a f*ckin sh*t about where your samples come from and why?
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agreed pad- these guys are like the e-muso equivilent of the guitar nerd- oh i only play amercian strats not jap or mexican, the rest of the world cares not...

greg


it's not really the same thing greg.. there is a huge difference in the guitars. the original US strats - preferably those made in between 50s-70s - are classic, quality instruments. they could even be called the stradivarius of the guitar world.

jimi, clapton, zappa etc.. all guitar nerds?
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By dubmunkey Tue May 10, 2005 12:19 pm
i meant to the average listener/player- the rest of the world wouldn't care if jimi's famous red house solo was actually done on a mexican strat and not a jap strat as previously stated yet some guitar nerds would care-

i know what you mean- not the best example but the guitar camp like the diggers camp seems to split into two factions; the nerds and the players....nerds fuss about the details and players fuss about the results....

btw page, hendrix and zappa are actually known for not being too anal about there gear being able to coax the best sounds out of most things they played...they had preferences (we all do) but they wouldn't restrict themselves by self imposed limits


greg
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By Cheech Tue May 10, 2005 2:12 pm
dubmunkey wrote:i meant to the average listener/player- the rest of the world wouldn't care if jimi's famous red house solo was actually done on a mexican strat and not a jap strat as previously stated yet some guitar nerds would care-

i know what you mean- not the best example but the guitar camp like the diggers camp seems to split into two factions; the nerds and the players....nerds fuss about the details and players fuss about the results....

btw page, hendrix and zappa are actually known for not being too anal about there gear being able to coax the best sounds out of most things they played...they had preferences (we all do) but they wouldn't restrict themselves by self imposed limits


greg


i don't give a shyt about the average listener.. in fact the majority of people in the world wouldn't understand good music if it slapped them in the face.. also i don't think that you need to know every brand of drum skins and guitar strings used in the studio, but you can't be ignorant to the artform.

and also it's not just about the sound coming out of the guitar, it's what you put in, and there's the main difference. with a great guitar you become one with the instument, and you can just let the music channel through you. no matter how good of a player you are, if you're using a cheap japanese knock-off that doesn't feel right then you ain't going to feel right and that's going to reflect in the music.


and i don't think you can split people into two camps like that, it's not as black and white. i know people who know everything there is to know about guitars and related equipment, they can fix their own amplifiers and make their own effect pedals, they know and understand music theory perfectly and most of all are great guitar players etc etc.. but these people i would never call guitar nerds, nor would i call them just guitar players..

damn greg, why are you always so quick to pull out the average listener card? :D
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By dubmunkey Tue May 10, 2005 3:10 pm
hehe purely as thats who populates 99.5% of the world- all you hiphop cats who wanna make money need to bear this public in mind- all the cats like me who want to be able to do this professionally have to pander to them- its in no way selling out as i prefer to call myself an average listener as some of these analytical types manage to take all the fun outta listening a

i do agree with a lot fo what your saying- these debates tend to mutate and end up talking about something slightly different- i only really meant that the digger subculture is in some cliques becoming as anal as those guitar nerds....
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greg
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By dubmunkey Tue May 10, 2005 3:13 pm
and i don't think you can split people into two camps like that,

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im just generalising to clarify my already clouded point- damn you guys are too deep....of course others exist- my mum for example plays guitar and she doesn't fall in either particular camp...

i just mean that some elements of the digger culture are in fear of forgetting about the music much like guitar nerds have....

greg
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By dj dcypher Tue May 10, 2005 3:48 pm
Penfold wrote:what dude! 'free sh1t' is my middle name!
had to install Download Accelerator so it can download the whole page in one go.


What's the word on this Accelerator? I was DL'ing these joints last night and it was taking for ever.