Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000

Are you getting the MPC1000?

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By Swissmaster Cheese Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:43 am
welcome back mane...

By mpc3000 Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:42 pm
"but before that I'd like to make sure that all my 2k files are compatible"

I am writing software that will convert older MPC formats to MPC1000 format. I'm doing this for Akai.

As far as the pads, they are smaller. CONFIRMED.
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By JusDaFied Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:30 pm
mpc3000 wrote:"but before that I'd like to make sure that all my 2k files are compatible"

I am writing software that will convert older MPC formats to MPC1000 format. I'm doing this for Akai.

As far as the pads, they are smaller. CONFIRMED.



That is seriously weak! And a major mistake by Akai if you ask me. I am now more towards the no. DONT MESS WITH THE PADS. Even in the interest of size....Not good.

By dknows2 Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:46 pm
I don't know if I agree that it's for the "noobs" either. I'm one of those "noobs" that picked up a MPC2000XL a little over a year ago without having any experience with drum machines or samplers and I'm getting around on it fine. As someone early said, it's not too difficult to operate if you put the time in. I don't see the MPC1000 being any less complicated especially considering some of the features that come standard on it. Having the 2000XL, I don't think I would go and buy the 1000 but, I like what I see even the flassy colors.
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By Dr.Foo Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:18 pm
dknows2 wrote:I don't know if I agree that it's for the "noobs" either. I'm one of those "noobs" that picked up a MPC2000XL a little over a year ago without having any experience with drum machines or samplers and I'm getting around on it fine. As someone early said, it's not too difficult to operate if you put the time in. I don't see the MPC1000 being any less complicated especially considering some of the features that come standard on it. Having the 2000XL, I don't think I would go and buy the 1000 but, I like what I see even the flassy colors.


yes,, but the key is "put in work" most peeps like the instant gratification of triton or the PC (reason etc.) and dont have the patience to learn it and in 6 months its on ebay.

and I dont like the 4000 cuz its all hype. the OS is a POS and its been out how long? its gonna be like the "vestax samurai" mixers, they will drop, do OK but not live up to expectatinos, then something else will drop and the 4000/samurai series will be forgotten. If the 4000 integrated the DPS 24 into it as standard, then that might be something worth the hype. that would be nice.....

By elmacaco Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:56 pm
Not for nothing, but MPC's are notoriously built for idiots. It is a very simple machine to use (up to the 4000 I guess).

Stuff like Kurtzweil and rack samplers are deeper and seen as more professional.

That's why so many people get them, especially people just starting in hip hop.

I'll probably cop a 1000.
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By JusDaFied Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:58 pm
elmacaco wrote:Stuff like Kurtzweil and rack samplers are deeper and seen as more professional.




Most of the gear list in all of your favorite hip hop producers studios include an MPC of some flavor.
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By JusDaFied Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:16 am
It seems that orders are being taken for the 1000 now and the going rate (on the surface anyway) seems to be $880.

Musciansfriends says they will have them 10/31 while zzsounds says 11/26.

[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=031007171153065033199172846540/g=home/search/d=tp?q=mpc1000
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http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?form=prodsearch&q=mpc1000

By elmacaco Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:58 am
Exactly. Hip Hop production is hardly the most technically demanding style out there. The ethic seems to be making the best out of very limited equipment. Most modern hip hop is presetville.

To say that the 2000 is a complex piece of gear is a gross misjudgement. Now the 4000 is in another league, but that isn't necessarily a good thing.

The MPC's simplicity is one of it's greatest selling points. How many Deeeeeeeejaaaaaaaaaays do you know who cop an mpc? To these guys it might seem hard, but it is hardly complex.

a k2x00, DX7, k5000s, now those are deep.

So to say the MPC 1000 is for nubies is stupid, since they are all intended to streamline production for a more entry level market.

Pro's can get alot more out of an mpc than a beginner, but there are things out there that require a high level of understanding to use, the MPC is not one of them.
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By pobeats Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:53 pm
I don't doubt if the pads are smaller. Here's what the Akai site says:

SIZE MATTERS
Small and perfectly formed (and not much bigger than an A4 sheet of paper), this diminuitive MPC is not some compromised little runt of the litter as you might expect. On the contrary - the MPC1000 inherits many of the major features of its older, bigger siblings but in a compact form factor that makes it ideal for carrying around… to your friends, to a gig, to a session… wherever. And it’s a creditable alternative to computer based systems.



As part of its lineage, the MPC1000 features the sixteen characteristic velocity and pressure sensitive pads that have been an established (and essential) component of the MPC series since its inception – arguably, they are the best pads on any drum machine past or present!

It doesn't say "reduced size pads to keeps it compact..." or "slightly smaller pads..." or anything like that.

By cooocooo1 Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:24 pm
mpc3000 wrote:As far as the pads, they are smaller. CONFIRMED.


I would have to agree with 3000, the pads clearly look smaller to me. I'd would say about 1/5" to 1/4" smaller top to bottom and 1/8" to 1/16" left to right. They are clearly rectangular. Either way we'll know for sure in a month or two, as I said before I'll definitely be getting one. At 13x9x3 it's even smaller then my laptop, I just wish Akai had figured out a way to make it battery operated for true portability.

By dknows2 Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:42 pm
If this little puppy was battery operable I would definitely be interested in getting one. I've been trying to figure out how to power my 2000XL excel from a battery source. That would be the apex of portability for me.

By MPC_Producer Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:10 pm
The MPC1000 pads are rectangular. Hopefully, this won't affect their performance.

I own the 60, 2000XL SP, 3000, and 4000. Despite its Fisher Price appearance, I have an MPC1000 on order. The idea of having a more portable unit appeals to me and its cost is not very high.

Looking to the future, I wonder how a third MPC is going to affect sales overall? Some potential customers are already confused by the differences between the 1000 and the 2000XL. If Akai releases the rumored MPC2500 customers are really going to be confused. You can almost bet that sales of the 4000 would decline to nothing with so many lower priced MPCs available and the threat of software sequencers.
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By aaron Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:10 pm
Damn.

I feel kinda stupid now. I mean i just spent alot of money on 2000xl when a better and less expensive model is just around the corner...

oh well Im straight with xl.

By MPC_Producer Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:10 pm
aaron,

Don't feel bad about your decision. This happens all the time with music gear. I have been in this business a long time, and I have had things like this happen to me a few times. Usually what occurs is that I buy something and then 3 months later it costs $500 less than what I paid for it.

The 2000XL is a fine MPC. It has the pop-up display that is missing on the MPC1000. There might be shortcomings in the MPC1000 that we don't know about yet.

If the MPC1000 does turn out to be a great unit, you can still sell your 2000XL and get the other model. Depending on the features your 2000XL has, you could probably break even on the sale and new purchase.