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By denzekiel Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:18 pm
this dude is definitely stressin me out. I cant even understand what hes saying half the time. The way he writes remind me of boomhower or some ish. daggon daggon mpc talkin bout some beats talkin bout dang man drummmin and the daggon thing ama jig wih the little daggon white kids shoot wack man
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By Cheech Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:54 pm
hahaha... damn!


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By TicToc Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:06 pm
elmacaco wrote:Yeah I noticed that too, I guess in changing from 16 to 12 it needs to adjust the volume or something.

higher output level would be good, but I aint shellin out no $400 for it.


An article I read that breaks down bitdepth and samplerate in laymans terms described bits as "levels of difference in volume". Basically, the higher the bits, the more fluctuations and nuances in volume differences that are captured.

So, a 12 bit sample would have fewer "levels of difference in volume", and therefore would be relatively more uniform in volume level within the sample.

Basically, the 60 converting 16 bit to 12 is, for lack of a better term, similar to "compression"--- a change in the dynamics so that there are fewer relative differences in volume level. Like compression, the conversion to lower bit depth reduces the dynamic range.

this would explain why sounds are "thicker" on 12 bit samplers, and also why some people mistakenly assume the sp1200 has a built-in compressor. Methinks this also explains the relatively low output of the 60.

By fobedafied Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:28 pm
TicToc wrote:
elmacaco wrote:Yeah I noticed that too, I guess in changing from 16 to 12 it needs to adjust the volume or something.

higher output level would be good, but I aint shellin out no $400 for it.


An article I read that breaks down bitdepth and samplerate in laymans terms described bits as "levels of difference in volume". Basically, the higher the bits, the more fluctuations and nuances in volume differences that are captured.

So, a 12 bit sample would have fewer "levels of difference in volume", and therefore would be relatively more uniform in volume level within the sample.

Basically, the 60 converting 16 bit to 12 is, for lack of a better term, similar to "compression"--- a change in the dynamics so that there are fewer relative differences in volume level. Like compression, the conversion to lower bit depth reduces the dynamic range.

this would explain why sounds are "thicker" on 12 bit samplers, and also why some people mistakenly assume the sp1200 has a built-in compressor. Methinks this also explains the relatively low output of the 60.


correct... in my recording arts class, we were taught that BITDEPTH directly affects the resolution of a sample's DYNAMIC RANGE, and that SAMPLE RATE directly affects the resolution of the samples FREQUENCY....

By elmacaco Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:31 pm
yeah but the output is a separate gain stage thing, not directly related to the bit depth, just straight volume.