For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
By colonyrecords Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:43 am
What can an mpc do that fruityloops can't? I'm just about to buy an xl but i'm afraid that i just get an external version of fruityloops. How do they compare?
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By R DA MASTER Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:44 am
mpc 2000xl easily stomps the shyt out of fruity loops.
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:41 pm
If I had nothing, I would choose the XL over FL.
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By bboutit Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:58 pm
Question is, what are you more comfortable with? This is what I have determined: Most ppl either are Hardware Producers or Software producers and some like both. I started out with software, which gave me my initial experience to producing. CAKEWALK, yes, Cakewalk. I liked it for then, it taught me how song construction develops, etc. I look at my software experience as being "taught". I prefer hardware, but use both. You must choose what works for you. Its like saying Which one is better, a Khia or Rover, both are cars, both get you from point A to B, but ultimately it is up to the user preference... I have heard bangin tracks made on fruity loops, but I doubt only a few PRO'S are using it. But at the end of the day, akai is in most ppls house somewhere. I wouldn't go for what's better by ppls standard, but what is better for me.
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By its bena Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:33 pm
piggybacking off what "bboutit" just said...comfort is definately key. I cant stand cutting/pasting/and dragging/clicking to lay down drums on a screen....My mans Charlie wouldnt' dream of laying down drums any other way. But on the real...I use both. Computer programs can save u a lot of time w/ certain things. Just get a MPC...and get a ripped copy of fruity loops, save the loot.

eddie leonard
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:52 pm
I learned on an ASR-10 and a portable CD player.
Everything I know now basically comes from that experience.

I use Hardware to create beats but software to do multitracking, final polishing (mastering) and burning. I just can't get into creating music on the computer. But like what was said "to each his own", as long as you are comfortable with the route you take then cool.

By RonDu Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:43 pm
I agree. Do what is comfortable for you. I use both but mainly the MPC. I use software for editing my samples which I put right back into the MPC and I use software for final tracking and mastering. Like what "its bena" stated I can't bother with the cutting and pasting to make a beat. It doesn't feel natural to me especially since I really play drums and other instruments. However, my partner is strictly a software cat and some of his beats are banging too. So I would simply say whatever works for you.
By djames Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:01 pm
by industry standards you're way better off with the MPC, but you have to do you. If you are more comfortable using FL Studio or Fruity Loops do your thang. I personally started with a program called Music Maker 5.0 in 1999. I then moved to ACID 2.0. I thought I was making bangers, but there was always an issue with sounding "computer" and the sounds in general. If you decide to go to the next level ( wherever that is ) You'll end up using both and much more because you'll see that there is never an either or, it's always better to have too many sounds and equipment than to limit yourself to one piece of gear. Good Luck!
Peace,
D. James

By richard Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:44 am
There is no rules, you can use fruity loops, acid, whatever, even **** mixman has some neat tricks - fruity is a brilliant program and gives you immediate preview access to every single sample on your harddrive which can be incredibly creative - more so than having to spend hours loading shit onto an MPC before you even know you want it... ask MPC4000 users!

but to be honest I personally have hardly gone back to fruity loops or acid since I got the MPC because the MPC has a vibe, it has pads, it has a groove and is a real musical instrument - compared with any PC application its a physical pleasure to use. but you can use ANY technology that sounds and feels right to you, you don't need an MPC to feel like a grown up artist, you just need whatever tool is right for you, for me the MPC has changed my life but I'd probably never have tried one out if I hadn't dug fruity loops so much...

Richard

By richard Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:46 am
I see by the **** that its a censored forum, I hope I didn't offend anyone with my other vulgarity!

Richard

By cashstill Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:43 am
i agree with dj james, you could never have too much sounds when producing

i am down with good software or hardware
a good mixture can make a very unique style
or sound

good music is your ultimate goal ya dig
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By skalawa Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:51 am
i personally like to produce on the xl, i started with cubase first, but the problem i had was that when i go to the big studios to transfer to 24 track tape, they would either be running mac, as opposed to pc. or pro tools, or logic, and that was one of the main reasons why i got the mpc, 1) hands ons hence pads and 2) compatability, and last but not least the name. believe it or not, when you tell a producer that you are on a mpc, you seem to get more respect, i know a bit trivial, but thats the way it is. one good thing with fruity is that you can export a wav file of a sequence, i usually do that, cause i aint got no modules, so i just transfer tht 4 bar sequence onto the mpc, and then compose the rest of the track on the mpc. i think tht is really hype. plus the amount of sounds, instruments you get for £90 quid aint too bad either, the best of both worlds.
by the way does any one know how to do tht with cubase??
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By Swissmaster Cheese Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:03 am
I prefer the MPC when it comes to making my beats and whatnot mainly for the fact that for all the trial and error tweaking and mousepad clicking it would take to make a simple beat with some s/w, I could do in a mere fifteen minutes after loading up up a few good drums and just banging away....that and the overall tangibility of what I created....I dont truly feel like I "own" what I did on some fruity loops program..with the MPC, I can feel the music pouring out of my fingertips and into the machine via the pads...I use my pc mainly for tweaking purposes but thats about it....and besides its called fruity loops.....i can't use something with a name like that......

By richard Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:51 am
swiss wrote

"I dont truly feel like I "own" what I did on some fruity loops program..with the MPC, I can feel the music pouring out of my fingertips and into the machine via the pads..."

I think that's exactly right, Akai should put that on their website

Richard