
By aaonli
Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:55 pm
are you serious or just not so smart? maybe I didn't get your question, but can't "pitch" be your answear???

By itchyvinyl
Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:19 am
You can also use the Timestretch to re-pitch the sample without changing the tempo.

By dubmunkey
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:16 pm
think hes talking about key- say bassline written in g maj over a string line which is Bbminor.....repitching will help but if one sample is on a minor scale or one is on a major scale you'll have trouble matching them....
if one sample is in minor try pitching the major sample 3 semitones down- so say from c to a....
greg
if one sample is in minor try pitching the major sample 3 semitones down- so say from c to a....
greg

By dubmunkey
Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:36 pm
if one sample is in minor try pitching the major sample 3 semitones down- so say from c to a....
provided they are in the same key say one is c major and one is c minor...pitch the c minor down three semis to a minor...
greg
provided they are in the same key say one is c major and one is c minor...pitch the c minor down three semis to a minor...
greg
right, I'm not that smart. Unlike most people here, I'm not a music major, just trying to figure out how to mix these various sound fragments together without breaking any harmony rules. How do you determine what key a sample is played in, in the first place, when you are pulling it from a vhs or something?

By Remedial
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:44 pm
That's the easiest way for him to learn what he needs to know. Sorry, but I don't know of any of the top of the dome, since I haven't touched any in a while. Peace. If I did, I would have already given it up.

By dubmunkey
Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:12 am
im no music major.....just love makin' music....
you dont need to get too deep into it- you can identify the root note of a sample by matching it to a key on your keyboard- so play from c to c until you hit the note which sounds the best.....
that defines the root note of your key- now if the melody is happy its probably in major....
if the melody is sad or dark its probably minor....now the interesting thing about the key of c major is you can play it on the keyboard from just using the white keys- going from c up an octave to c- its a seven note scale...a minor is a minor scale which again uses oinly the white keys on the keyboard- from a to a respectively....
so both keys use the exact same notes but start from different root notes ....in this way you can play a sample which is in a minor over a sample which is c major cos the notes of the scales are the same....
hope this helps...
greg
you dont need to get too deep into it- you can identify the root note of a sample by matching it to a key on your keyboard- so play from c to c until you hit the note which sounds the best.....
that defines the root note of your key- now if the melody is happy its probably in major....
if the melody is sad or dark its probably minor....now the interesting thing about the key of c major is you can play it on the keyboard from just using the white keys- going from c up an octave to c- its a seven note scale...a minor is a minor scale which again uses oinly the white keys on the keyboard- from a to a respectively....
so both keys use the exact same notes but start from different root notes ....in this way you can play a sample which is in a minor over a sample which is c major cos the notes of the scales are the same....
hope this helps...
greg
Once you get the basic idea of tuning samples up and down, your overall best tool will be your ears. When I first started making beats, I had no "ear", but with time and patience, you learn what to listen for and to trust your ears. You are in a good position so far, because you know that it does not sound "right" to your ear. Decide on a starting place and start detuning till it sounds right. This will be frustrating, but after a few months of doing it, you will be able to make better mixes.
-The Professor.
-The Professor.
I'm sure most of you already know about this, but just in case, I found a pretty extensive database of keys for individual songs, although it does cost money. The address is http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/index.mv
DJ Prince also has a lot of relevant info for harmonic mixing. His site is at http://www.djprince.no/
DJ Prince also has a lot of relevant info for harmonic mixing. His site is at http://www.djprince.no/


