Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
ByaBSTRACTmATH Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:38 pm
Does anyone know how to avoid key clashes when mixing samples from various sources? :?:
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By aaonli Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:55 pm
are you serious or just not so smart? maybe I didn't get your question, but can't "pitch" be your answear???
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:21 pm
I didn't understand the question either.

By cashstill Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:58 am
huh?
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By itchyvinyl Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:19 am
You can also use the Timestretch to re-pitch the sample without changing the tempo.
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By dubmunkey Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:16 pm
think hes talking about key- say bassline written in g maj over a string line which is Bbminor.....repitching will help but if one sample is on a minor scale or one is on a major scale you'll have trouble matching them....

if one sample is in minor try pitching the major sample 3 semitones down- so say from c to a....

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By dubmunkey Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:36 pm
if one sample is in minor try pitching the major sample 3 semitones down- so say from c to a....

provided they are in the same key say one is c major and one is c minor...pitch the c minor down three semis to a minor...

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ByaBSTRACTmATH Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:21 pm
right, I'm not that smart. Unlike most people here, I'm not a music major, just trying to figure out how to mix these various sound fragments together without breaking any harmony rules. How do you determine what key a sample is played in, in the first place, when you are pulling it from a vhs or something?
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By Remedial Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:44 pm
That's the easiest way for him to learn what he needs to know. Sorry, but I don't know of any of the top of the dome, since I haven't touched any in a while. Peace. If I did, I would have already given it up.
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By dubmunkey Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:12 am
im no music major.....just love makin' music....

you dont need to get too deep into it- you can identify the root note of a sample by matching it to a key on your keyboard- so play from c to c until you hit the note which sounds the best.....

that defines the root note of your key- now if the melody is happy its probably in major....

if the melody is sad or dark its probably minor....now the interesting thing about the key of c major is you can play it on the keyboard from just using the white keys- going from c up an octave to c- its a seven note scale...a minor is a minor scale which again uses oinly the white keys on the keyboard- from a to a respectively....

so both keys use the exact same notes but start from different root notes ....in this way you can play a sample which is in a minor over a sample which is c major cos the notes of the scales are the same....

hope this helps...

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Bytirrellp Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:06 am
Once you get the basic idea of tuning samples up and down, your overall best tool will be your ears. When I first started making beats, I had no "ear", but with time and patience, you learn what to listen for and to trust your ears. You are in a good position so far, because you know that it does not sound "right" to your ear. Decide on a starting place and start detuning till it sounds right. This will be frustrating, but after a few months of doing it, you will be able to make better mixes.

-The Professor.

ByaBSTRACTmATH Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:18 pm
I'm sure most of you already know about this, but just in case, I found a pretty extensive database of keys for individual songs, although it does cost money. The address is http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/index.mv

DJ Prince also has a lot of relevant info for harmonic mixing. His site is at http://www.djprince.no/