Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By ONE Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:11 pm
whoa...you sure got it twisted. I do contribute to this forum. I mean the whole MPC forums not just a tiny little corner of it. Haven't you heard...this isn't a little exclusive club just for dudes that need to band together just cause they use the same machines. I simply gave honest feedback in return to honest feedback that was given to me, and I simply defended myself. When cats who couldn't handle the honesty of the comment decided to pile up. The BS in this forum that I commented on was here before this started and will undoubtedy continue if I never come back here again. Like I said I didn't start this, and you obviously got this all twisted in your head and cannot compute. I will leave this forum alone and you will see this BS happening again cause it's nothing new, so stop trying to act like I'm the cause of this, I'm just bringing the bs to light. Not my fault this is the way it is. Not my fault you got extremely narrow vision on this either, and don't see the big picture.

BTW go look in this forum, and look at how much knowledge has been dropped in the last little while? Look how many threads are about calling someone out, and look for my name in there. You'll be hard pressed to see me contributing to that mess, and I have made very constructive posts in this forum when I did post. Not to mention most of my posts in general are constructive. Unless it's in off-topic, and there it has it's place.

This is ONE thread not MANY. Lighten up. It started with me giving honest feedback and some jokers turning it into beef. It didn't turn to beef until cats in here made it that way, which again happens a lot in here with or without my prescence..thank you very much oh wise and righteous one.

Stop trying to put the responsibilty on me for this forum being the way it is Elmac...if you don't liek the direction go make posts on some 60 knowledge, no one else seems to be doing that here including yourself. Don't blame this one thread for the direction this forum has been going for months.

haha...if you got a problem with me busting balls and using my wit to defend myself....that's just lame I'm sorry. hahaha Maladjusted egos? If that is so you are no better, you contributed to this thread just like everyone else has. Stop playing mother superior it's getting tired Elmac.
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By powercord Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:15 pm
ONE wrote:whoa...you sure got it twisted. I do contribute to this forum. I mean the whole MPC forums not just a tiny little corner of it. Haven't you heard...this isn't a little exclusive club just for dudes that need to band together just cause they use the same machines. I simply gave honest feedback in return to honest feedback that was given to me, and I simply defended myself. When cats who couldn't handle the honesty of the comment decided to pile up. The BS in this forum that I commented on was here before this started and will undoubtedy continue if I never come back here again. Like I said I didn't start this, and you obviously got this all twisted in your head and cannot compute. I will leave this forum alone and you will see this BS happening again cause it's nothing new, so stop trying to act like I'm the cause of this, I'm just bringing the bs to light. Not my fault this is the way it is. Not my fault you got extremely narrow vision on this either, and don't see the big picture.

BTW go look in this forum, and look at how much knowledge has been dropped in the last little while? Look how many threads are about calling someone out, and look for my name in there. You'll be hard pressed to see me contributing to that mess, and I have made very constructive posts in this forum when I did post. Not to mention most of my posts in general are constructive. Unless it's in off-topic, and there it has it's place.

This is ONE thread not MANY. Lighten up. It started with me giving honest feedback and some jokers turning it into beef. It didn't turn to beef until cats in here made it that way, which again happens a lot in here with or without my prescence..thank you very much oh wise and righteous one.

Stop trying to put the responsibilty on me for this forum being the way it is Elmac...if you don't liek the direction go make posts on some 60 knowledge, no one else seems to be doing that here including yourself. Don't blame this one thread for the direction this forum has been going for months.

haha...if you got a problem with me busting balls and using my wit to defend myself....that's just lame I'm sorry. hahaha Maladjusted egos? If that is so you are no better, you contributed to this thread just like everyone else has. Stop playing mother superior it's getting tired Elmac.


yo louie, dont you think the fact that no one is sticking up for you says anything? and if it doesnt why would you want to be a part of a forum of crazy irrational people?
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By docmartin120 Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:20 pm
^^^ NEVER speak for others...

By KoolSha178 Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:49 pm
Yeah, the beat lou posted WAS wack, and Drumat!c is unoriginal and a biter, even if he is "keeping the tradition" bleh...yall should squash it, you both have good points.

By cooocooo1 Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:01 pm
Im just glad to see all this white on white hate goin on in hip hop :P

cant leave all the pointless beefs to 50.......

By ONE Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:24 pm
cooocooo1 wrote:Im just glad to see all this white on white hate goin on in hip hop :P

cant leave all the pointless beefs to 50.......


:lol:

By ONE Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:25 pm
KoolSha178 wrote:Yeah, the beat lou posted WAS wack, and Drumat!c is unoriginal and a biter, even if he is "keeping the tradition" bleh...yall should squash it, you both have good points.


hahaha true enough son.
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By drumat!c Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:33 pm
Lonely (J Dilla sounding beat - made with J Dilla kit)

Anyone who has talked to me on the subject of Dilla knows that I'm not a big fan of him. Some cat in the 1k forum posted a Dilla sounding drum kit. It's actually a dope kit. I made a beat using the kit today, and I liked how it came out even though I'm not really a fan of the Dilla steez.

Check it out it's called "Lonely."

http://www.soundclick.com/util/Streamm3 ... 82737&q=lo

http://www.soundclick.com/util/Streamm3 ... 82737&q=hi


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Originally posted by drumat!c:

sound like yall jacked these drums from Jay Dee's LL Cool J beat....off the official JAy Dee Series Instrumental Vol. 1.....that's some straight gaf **** so we gon' throw you to the piranhas cus you're a straight up BITERRRRRRR!

also you need to crawl before you can walk web slinger.....the quantize function is like your friendly neighborhood spiderman.....

and yes I understand that this drum kit was labeled the JAY DEE drums...but c'mon man....those drums aren't the coal that's gonna get your flames a blazin'.....sample your own **** and be true to yourself.

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Originally responded to by ONE:

hahaha you're a funny b!tch. I made this beat with a drum kit labelled J Dilla drums. Like I said I'm not a big fan of Dilla. I wouldn't know if they were jacked straight from a song he did. I made the beat cause I wanted to play with the kit. You ho's with a lot of pent up emotion need to relax.

If you read a thread on swing in production forums you would know I'm a proponent of time correct and swing. I just didn't care to do it on this beat. So suck my nutz webslinger. Most of my beats are quantized, and they are not finished either. I've been making beats for about a year and 7 almost 8 months. So all this ish really is practice.

Oh yeah, lil homo's like you need to start to think before you speak. You all blabbering and getting all righteous. It's not that serious dude. You shoulda got the hint when I said especially "I'm not a fan of J Dilla." I'm defintely not looking to set my productions "ablaze" ESPECIALLY with a style from some cat I'm not really feeling.

Peace out Dumbatic. You need to put the "a" back in your name, because you're a lil mellow dramatic.



======================= You sound like a fake, faker, four-flusher. That's what you call a gimmick my friend......you say you don't like JAY DEE's music but then your post clearly using his name to promote the beat you just made.....and when I added a few points of criticism and stressed how strongly I feel against cats that use someone elses drums you started menstruating all over the place. Also I was just making goofy comments using spiderman as reference....nothing remotely ridiculing about using QUANTIZATION?

funny thing is after i made that comment i realized EMFinite said:

"i think this is hot. the drums are real serious.

but it does need to be tightened up a bit. everything is all over the place. but i kinda feel where you going with this."

nice job ONE!"
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and you had finally replaced the pad in your panties and said:

Originally posted by ONE:

"I made this beat without using quantize. I'm afraid to hit the quantize because you know how it sometimes shift things really outta place and you either gotta go in step mode and fix it up or re-do the whole damn thing if it's all shifted all over the place.

I'm going to keep it like this. It's such a minimal beat that the little bit of looseness makes it more interesting. But a few things could still need a lil bit of tightening regardless, and a little more work.

Thanks for the listen EMF. Good Looks."


and after all that BS that everybody else said about you possibly using the quantize you took a direct shot at me....

but again you pulled your stockings back up and said:

"Thanks to everyone who gave constructive criticism. I may load this beat up for the last time and use timing correct on it. I woulda put more time into that, but I got sick of the beat. hahaha But it was cool trying a slightly different style. "


Which to me sounds like you were unsure what direction to take your music in. You can't decide if you should quantize or not. You guys talk all this shit on me and I strictly quantize and step edit.

And last time I quote my man EMFinite cus i dont wanna drag anymore people into this.....:

"yeah i feel you on the quantize shht. man oh man do i hate fkkin with the quantize. imo it makes beatmakin (for me) a bit more complicated.

either way that beat is hot to me."


And Binger said something similar about your quantization and using swing.

So my lady like friend from the mountains.....get da fuk up off my D and move your frustration on to someone else. I'm for real through with you. It's done.

By cooocooo1 Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:37 pm
foreva, eva.......... eva, eva?
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By powercord Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:39 pm
cooocooo1 wrote:foreva, eva.......... eva, eva?

lol lol

By Behind BARS Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:09 pm
I had the luxery of reading this whole post today @ work (god damn.... SOAP OPERA) and wtf is going on. there are alot of relivant points here and alot of stuff we all can wipe our a$$ with but really....... @ the end of the day we need to come to a conclusion. here is MY OPINION since every one else has dropped there 2 cents (more like 5 dollars and chit god damm).. anyways.

1. YOOOOOOOOO doc, you got ished on, like a watery dookie type ish.... really pick your battles. dont hate on drum cause he killed it, man has skills and he knows what hes doin.. cant hate on that.

2.EVERY ONE IN HERE POSTS BEATS FOR ADVERTISEMENT AND CRITICISIM, THATS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS SITE IS HERE. AND IF IT GETS THIS CAT DRUM MORE SALES AND ISH, MORE POWER TO HIM. DONT HATE THE PLAYA HATE THE GAME!

3. really it doesnt matter what equipment is used now a days, if its hot its hot. the equipment used really does define a person and gives personality though no doubt, and the older equipment A. sounds better B. is made better and C. is looked down upon becase it doesnt have the shiney blinking lights and 500 mb's of sample time. There is a reason most ILL producers in the game still use older equipment... get a grip. YES, just because you own an MPC 60 doesnt mean you are going to be DJ premier but i will tell you this, the cats using these machines (3000, 60, sp1200 etc..) are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ILLER than the cats using the 2000's and so forth.. thats a FACT.

4. hip hop right now is some other SH!T, its pop corn... maddd buttery pop corn. POP POP POP POP POP POP.... horrible. dont ever ever ever say that these new cats are the new flavor and that they are helping the game.. the whole reason why the game is what it is IS because of this Bull sh!t. where did the real music go? i respect cats like drumatic and lo fi end el for the knowledge that they have, the music that they make and the passion they have for this music. i gurantee 100% thats why drumatic acts the way he does and has the opinions the way he does. he respects the ARTFORM, not the following. thats REAL HIP HOP.

CMON PEOPLE, lets help this ARTFORM out as well as this forum, AND YES I DO HAVE AN MPC 3000 in my studio so i guess i have the previlage to post in here. some of what i say is OPINION but also FACT. REALLY, if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

TO ALL THOSE WHO SEE THE LIGHT, KEEP MOVING. THOSE IN THE DARK.... KEEP LOOKING FOR YOUR TORCH.

WORD.
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By docmartin120 Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:44 pm
Behind BARS wrote:
1. YOOOOOOOOO doc, you got ished on, like a watery dookie type ish.... really pick your battles. dont hate on drum cause he killed it, man has skills and he knows what hes doin.. cant hate on that.


See this is what I'm talkin about. Son I'm NOT hating because I have grudge or anything. I just don't like the beats. Damn!!! A muthafuka really can't have an opinion in here. I judge beats by if I've done them before or can do them. And dude just fails MY test. I don't speak for others, so thats just me. But always like I said this internet sh!t is really getting tired. If cats is that fire get your sh!t out to more than just cyber space pussies!!!
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By Boogie Man Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:45 pm
Behind BARS wrote: i respect cats like drumatic and lo fi end el for the knowledge that they have, the music that they make and the passion they have for this music. i gurantee 100% thats why drumatic acts the way he does and has the opinions the way he does. he respects the ARTFORM, not the following. thats REAL HIP HOP.

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Can you suck their dycks just a lil harder???

How can you say that people who make other styles of music don't consider thier music art too??? How come they aren't as passionate???Because it doesn't fall into your lame azz category of "real Hiphop"??? Define "Real" Hiphop....Take it way back and I can guarantee you that The Treacherous 3, Cold Crush Brothers and Grandmaster Caz would have absolutely LOVED to have used thier talents on a larger scale to make some money....

I'll tell you what's real...the kids who are out there hustlin and grinding in the streets getting their schit heard....you may not aprove of thier sound, but thier shcit is just as real because by them being out thier putting thier product on display, they are showing real heart and dedication to what they are trying to achieve...People who say they won't do any music for money are either rich and don't know the TRUE ABSOLUTE meaning of Hiphop and how it was birthed....the STRUGGLE, or they are in thier teens still living with their moms and pops...

again define "real" Hiphop.....
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By drumat!c Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:08 am
Seriously....let's dead this sh!t....get off me....move onto someone else....I give up....i'm off this forum for real.....please. I was just trying to promote my new album when all the walls came crashin' down on me.....I didn't come up in here saying YO MY ALBUM IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING OUT RIGHT NOW....WE'RE THE MOST ORIGINAL MOTHERFUKKERZ IN HERE....

"Finally....DRUMAT!C's MPC-60 / S950 beats unveiled.....

Got some fresh stuff for you fans of real hiphop flavor.....that ol' rugged jeep ish. I like to refer to it as retroactive hiphop. Call it what you want:


www.myspace.com/formulatinfathers


Thanks for lending me your ears.....peace."

I was nice about it and very humble....and i said fans of real hiphop flavor....not those who aren't into commercial bullshit.....blah blah...I was just trying to shout out to some heads that might have an interested in purchasing the LP on-line.

Yo and for the record we invested over 4 grand in this project out of our own pockets on our own production label (LLC is pending) and on my valuable time....I got food bills, rent due, car payments, insurance, etc. just like everybody else. I had to take off of work numerous times while attending college to work on this damn album and I designed the cover illustration, the logo, the artwork from front to back inside and out and took my own photos.....and NEED NOT invested mad time and money into it as well. So please just get off this subject of me being an unappreciative beat biting prick....if that's what you wanna call me and my style....so be it....

"but you can't bake a cake without the main ingredient, so if this beat is a cake what the hell is you feeding us?" Llingo Apt

I'm done!

DRUMZ.1 over and out.
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By drumat!c Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:08 am
Seriously....let's dead this sh!t....get off me....move onto someone else....I give up....i'm off this forum for real.....please. I was just trying to promote my new album when all the walls came crashin' down on me.....I didn't come up in here saying YO MY ALBUM IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING OUT RIGHT NOW....WE'RE THE MOST ORIGINAL MOTHERFUKKERZ IN HERE....

"Finally....DRUMAT!C's MPC-60 / S950 beats unveiled.....

Got some fresh stuff for you fans of real hiphop flavor.....that ol' rugged jeep ish. I like to refer to it as retroactive hiphop. Call it what you want:


www.myspace.com/formulatinfathers


Thanks for lending me your ears.....peace."

I was nice about it and very humble....and i said fans of real hiphop flavor....not those who aren't into commercial bullshit.....blah blah...I was just trying to shout out to some heads that might have an interested in purchasing the LP on-line.

Yo and for the record we invested over 4 grand in this project out of our own pockets on our own production label (LLC is pending) and on my valuable time....I got food bills, rent due, car payments, insurance, etc. just like everybody else. I had to take off of work numerous times while attending college to work on this damn album and I designed the cover illustration, the logo, the artwork from front to back inside and out and took my own photos.....and NEED NOT invested mad time and money into it as well. So please just get off this subject of me being an unappreciative beat biting prick....if that's what you wanna call me and my style....so be it....

"but you can't bake a cake without the main ingredient, so if this beat is a cake what the hell is you feeding us?" Llingo Apt

I'm done!

DRUMZ.1 over and out.

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