What do you do while waiting for time stretch to complete?

Yeh I don't normally business with the MPC's timestretch....

I'll use some other sh!t and save it to zip before loading it into my MPC.

Lampdog wrote:

dstruction wrote:damn it takes that long?

Yeah, it sucks. Better off doing it on a computer.
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man i dont use the computer for production though.

I wanna time stretch somethin once though just to peep it.

I dont know, it seems like cheating to me or something

ive used timestretch and found it completely useless

maybe i didnt use it right

has anyone got a beat with somethin they timestretched in so i can see
how youve used this seemingly useless function

pls point out the part you timestretched

I use it whenever I need it, not as an effect or something.

It' like when you have a loop and want to take some stabs out of it but there's a hihat in the way you take this real short stab and put 200 pct timestretch on there it'll sound nicer, more natural than a very short chopped sound.
Or when you can't find a decent bass because the sample is in some strange key you just take 2 stabs, stretch them like 4 times and apply lowpass filter w lots of resonance (like freq 20/res 12) and you've got a nice sounding bass blending perfectly into the mix.

It takes a lot of searchin, re-trying and time but it's the small detail that makes the difference.

Even though the MPC's timestretch seems slow, would the hassle of a computer be actually beneficial? After the time it takes to transfer, timestretch and transfer it back to the MPC, you may have been able to just stretch on the MPC in shorter time. In fact, after you take into account the administrative burden of using Windows incurs on it's users, I know for a fact it would still take less time on the MPC.

Remedial wrote:And the worse part is, if the sample comes out sounding funny, you have to do it all over again

In Sound Forge, you can preview it before you time-stretch.

It depends of the sample. If it is a long sample..it can take up to 20 minutes..where a computer can do it between a few seconds up to a minute. That is why I never use this function on my XL. My main instrument is the MPC 300o, which doesn't have the time stretch feature. or extensive editing. So, I use my S6000 or computer to sample and edit..and may transfer certain samples to the 3000 or the XL which is still alot faster than waiting for 20 minutes.

It will probably never come..but I would like a 2000XL with the features of the 4000.

ripple wrote:I was just curious about what everyone on here does while they're like timestretching a 4 bar loop with the HFREQ ORCH-C preset? Usually **** takes about 20 mins to complete, if not more...

I usually do useful stuff like cleaning up some ****, fixing some cables, clip nails... and roll up ofcourse

I hop on to my MV and do it in real time..

Sorry, couldn't resist.

mpc3000 wrote:Even though the MPC's timestretch seems slow, would the hassle of a computer be actually beneficial? After the time it takes to transfer, timestretch and transfer it back to the MPC, you may have been able to just stretch on the MPC in shorter time. In fact, after you take into account the administrative burden of using Windows incurs on it's users, I know for a fact it would still take less time on the MPC.

HELL NO! It takes HELLA long to timestretch on the MPC. And if you have a PC to edit samples on, you're prolly doing your original sampling on it also so you only have to timestretch the sample, then import it to the MPC. Even if I did sample it on the MPC and saved it to zip and then imported it to CEP, it would still be less time, and that's only if I get it right on the first try with the 2000xl, which hardly ever happens.

i stopped time stretching

chicho wrote:i stopped time stretching

Well that would be quite a road block for a sample based producer.

most of the time i use the time strech if i want a loop to match with something faster or slower, most of the time i use basic "female vox A" it's fast and work for most short sample,when it does'nt work i use "femal vox C " it's really slower but it make it, there's difference bettween presets, some work better for drums , percussion , voice music etc, just try it. "A" mean fast, "B" is a bit slower but better, "C" is the best but the slowest.

guesswhosback wrote:ive used timestretch and found it completely useless

maybe i didnt use it right

has anyone got a beat with somethin they timestretched in so i can see
how youve used this seemingly useless function

pls point out the part you timestretched

timestretch is good for matching say a 85BPM sample with your 90BPM beat. I'm assuming that KanYe West, for example, used timestretch to match the original "diamonds are forever sample" with his new beat.(infinitskills_villain made a good point on timestretch)

PS if u hav got a computer use soundforge cos its tha ish! u can preview everythin u do before hittin the process button!

Timestretching on a cpu is hella quicker, plus you can preview it.

"Even if I did sample it on the MPC and saved it to zip and then imported it to CEP, it would still be less time,"

Not after your next virus attack, service pack "upgrade", malware, or Tueday at 3:15PM when you have to spend five hours rebuilding your winblows machine. That is why I said that the administrative burden that windows puts on everyday users would make it questionable as to whether it would actually same time. RTFP.

"and that's only if I get it right on the first try with the 2000xl, which hardly ever happens."

That is why I said, use a caculator. It's 6th grade math to figure out correct timestreching. I have never had to timestretch anything twice. If you are concerned about the actual 'sound' of the result, that is why I said copy a small section as a new sample and timestrech that.


[I am not attacking the poster of the quoted text, I simply pulled those since that seems to summarize the general reponse quite well].


I find it hilarious that the XL owners consider the timestretch "useless" while the 1000 owners wish they had it. I suspect if Akai make an OS update that remove the timestretch, there would be a LOT of mad users.