Gettin serious with multisampling (just tell me the truth)

I haven't embarked yet, as I have just bought my 2000XL. But I like to know what Its gonna do for me.

Should buy a second sampler for multisampling?
Like an S-series? Then which one is best fit for the job you think?

Or should I buy the ebook and tackle it that way (with my mpc)

Tell me the truth whats going to be more intuitive-efficiënt-timesaving(!!!)-creative-inspiring- (pro's / cons)

Also soundquality: The key here not being to recreate the instrument like going after 200% realism, but creating an individual unique sound starting from acoustic instruments (say 90-95% realism is reasonable). But thats not really the issue (100% is of course always fine: I can but a bunch of effects on it later)

I'm planning to multisample a bunch of instruments (harp,trumpet,contra-bass,cello (staccato), flute, zither, that sort of thing) anything I can lay my hands on basically. (As you see I'm more of an alt-tronica-type of guy)
I'm not going to do things with long decay times to begin with (but you never know later on...)

I like the idea of being able to save space and use the mpc for drums only and at the SAME TIME playing melodies (from multisampled instruments) form an other rackmount sampler. Can I do this using for example
mpc + rackmount + midi-keyboard, and have the mpc record everything?

Share some thoughts-Should I expand or try to squeeze everything
out of my mpc? (time really is a factor)

cheers

Instead of focusing on whats best and what can be done. Do something with the MPC and then ask questions. You have to put forth effort by atleast trying to figure out stuff and then when u get stomped ask questions or search the forum. Also u should have thought of all that before u went out and purchased an MPC. Now I know u feel like Im being rude but Im not Im just speaking the truth. I love!!

ONe

p.s. u could make a whole beat with just the MPC if u put time and effort into it.

Ok,
so I need an answer from someone who has actually tried multisampling using the MPC tutor ebook. Or via other samplers.
Please, smart remarks (even though they're useful sometimes) really don't solve my issue here

Pro's an Conz yall

you sure can't beat a fully functional sampler when it comes to making multisamples. I went the mpc multi sample route but it is not ideal. As far as buying a cpu based sampler or a standalone like a s2000 or asr-10 it just depends on whether or not you like working on the computer or on hardware. good luck

what does makin multi samples on the mpc mean exactly? like sampling a trumpet sound n tryin 2 play the pads like u would a keyboard or sumtin?i aint tryin 2 jack this thread but sumone brought up the ASR-10 and people like kanye west swear by it....what can it do the mpc cant?

dennison wrote:you sure can't beat a fully functional sampler when it comes to making multisamples. I went the mpc multi sample route but it is not ideal. As far as buying a cpu based sampler or a standalone like a s2000 or asr-10 it just depends on whether or not you like working on the computer or on hardware. good luck

Yeah, like I said, I would like the idea of having a hardware sampler for multisamples (now that it has been said that it is in fact the better way).
Just not sure which one. I'tend to go for another Akai ('the S-series).
Which one should I get thats gonna make my multisamplin' life easiest. Because I'm gonna be doin it like crazy and I would like to be able of doing it fast (Of course, If I should stumble on sumthing really cool, then go back and record it an edit it more in detail) and on the fly.

Akai S series samplers will do what you want to accomplish. The older ones are very reasonably priced. I lucked up a few months ago and got an S6000 for a few hundred dollars. It is great teamed with my MPC 3000.

sounds to me that your tryin to take a shortcut with the hardware, i dont think there is a shortcut useing hardware. it a timely process, you should go the computer route if you want shortcuts.

good music takes time my friend

I disagree. With the exception of the MPC 4000, Akai MPCs are not that great when it comes to multi-sampling. The MPC 2000XL has the ability to use up to 4 programs per sequence so it is a little better than the others.

Most of Akai's stand alone samplers are better for multi-sampling than an MPC. This is not my opinion but a fact. These samplers can easily map samples out across a keyboard, have multiple layers, velocity switching, etc. Software samplers can do this as well...but if you get an S series sampler, it offers the best of software and hardware.

Thankx guys,
I've been researching the s1100 and I think this will fit my concept!

The S3000/S3000XL are reasonably priced today as well.

Yeah, but for some reason you got some people chanting all over the place about the s1100, then you got others raving about the s3000XL. Let me illustrate:

1st ones say
-s1100 way ahead of its time
-s1100 has more attack &"nicer" allround sound (Hi-end = brilliant)
allowing it to cut through better in a mix
-Very warm analogue out
There are lots of reviews all over from people that sold their s3000(XL)
and copped an s1100 (+sometimes go crazy buying up to 3 more s1100EX's!!)


2nd group swears
-s3000XL is more PC compatible
-32poly
-Memory = cheaper

So I'm leaning more to the 1st

The group favoring the S1100 are the same ones that will tell you to get an Akai MPC 60, Ensoniq ASR-10 or SP12/1200, or many of the other vintage gear out there that are dirt cheap to get now. The S3000 is an improvement on the S1000 series. The MPC 3000 is suppose to be based on the sound engine of the S3000 series. Akai's MESA software works great with the S3000. The S5000/6000 are even better when used with a PC.

the mpc 2000xl,2000,3000,1000,60 were designed for drums you can multisample instruments as you described but for instance if the sounds are in the mpc the mpc sound generator cannot do pitchbend like the wheel on the keyboard or adjust modulations by the mod wheel,& no LFO's.(only the sequencer can support those functions where the sound generation of a keyboard or other device generates pitchbend, mod wheel etc) Also the mpc 2000xl,2000,3000,1000,60 do not support hard level-soft level sequencing for instance the velocity at which a key is pressed can dramatically change the "mood" of the sound. The mpc ive listed above are velocity sensitive but dont have 2 levels. where if you had a rack sampler like the akai s1000, asr 10, emu e6400 there sequencers are slightly different they support hard level soft level sequencing. they are designed for multisampling,modwheel,pitchbend,LFO's etc. plus with bass sometimes you want to be able to play from key to key without the sounds overlaping. You cant do a sound muted by another sound for every sound combining with every other sound being used. the mpc series listed above has sound muted by another sound but you can only assing 2 sounds to the one being played, not unlimited like is needed for that type of bass playing(its much easier to assign that with the touch of 1 button) so if you want to get serious and do it better get a rack sampler that has more functions designed for multisampling or get the mpc 4000 it has these added functions.

jimisteele wrote:the mpc 2000xl,2000,3000,1000,60 were designed for drums you can multisample instruments as you described but for instance if the sounds are in the mpc the mpc sound generator cannot do pitchbend like the wheel on the keyboard or adjust modulations by the mod wheel,& no LFO's.(only the sequencer can support those functions where the sound generation of a keyboard or other device generates pitchbend, mod wheel etc) Also the mpc 2000xl,2000,3000,1000,60 do not support hard level-soft level sequencing for instance the velocity at which a key is pressed can dramatically change the "mood" of the sound. The mpc ive listed above are velocity sensitive but dont have 2 levels. where if you had a rack sampler like the akai s1000, asr 10, emu e6400 there sequencers are slightly different they support hard level soft level sequencing. they are designed for multisampling,modwheel,pitchbend,LFO's etc. plus with bass sometimes you want to be able to play from key to key without the sounds overlaping. You cant do a sound muted by another sound for every sound combining with every other sound being used. the mpc series listed above has sound muted by another sound but you can only assing 2 sounds to the one being played, not unlimited like is needed for that type of bass playing(its much easier to assign that with the touch of 1 button) so if you want to get serious and do it better get a rack sampler that has more functions designed for multisampling or get the mpc 4000 it has these added functions.

Thx man, these are the type of suggestions I wanted to hear,
cheers!