i'm thinking of buying pro tools because....

right now i have cubase se and for now that works fine for me. pretty soon i would like to start to selling my beats. the only reason i really want pro tools is because i figure if i have it then if some one want to buy a beat from me then i could just sell them the beat and the pro tools file that way if they need to they mix the levels of the beat according the way they like. being that pro tools is almost the standard in most studios, is this a good idea?

I have been going through this with my group trying to decide whether pro tools is needed. Ehh I decided not to go with pro tools. Any DAW can render wavs to be dumped into pro tools.

so is there ever an issue where some one might like one of your beats and the want to buy it but they might be like " it's an aight track but the the drum level is too high or the hats are too hot, they need to come down some". i feel like if i make a beat and mix it to where i like it and you mix it down to stero, put it on a cd and try to shop it, even though it's a hot song they might not like the mix. but being that every studio is running pro tools as a standard, i could be like, i'll sell you the file and you can mix to your own levels cause when you start putting vocals on a track some times you need to readjust the levels to go with those vocals. like i said i aint on pro tools cause i think its better than cubase but i might be missing out on money by not having this option to offer some one who may like my music.

i mean u can dl it but i respect you for being good to the economony

ave76 wrote:so is there ever an issue where some one might like one of your beats and the want to buy it but they might be like " it's an aight track but the the drum level is too high or the hats are too hot, they need to come down some". i feel like if i make a beat and mix it to where i like it and you mix it down to stero, put it on a cd and try to shop it, even though it's a hot song they might not like the mix. but being that every studio is running pro tools as a standard, i could be like, i'll sell you the file and you can mix to your own levels cause when you start putting vocals on a track some times you need to readjust the levels to go with those vocals. like i said i aint on pro tools cause i think its better than cubase but i might be missing out on money by not having this option to offer some one who may like my music.

like dennision said you can take the wav's or other file formats I forgot what its called and import it into protools. I have seen data go from AW series yamaha recorders into protools, Seperated Reason and FL files, just about anything. If the people who are using pro tools are worth a damn they will be able to accomadate you. Not to knock pro tools, but spending all that dough for a didi 002(mbox won't even be consider) is not worth it when you have better quality gear that does more cheaper. Pro Tools does offer a standard, but I see a lot of dickriders buying it or people who do so much studio work that it makes since for them to have it, but for people who compose at home and don't frequent the studio that often the are other options that should be explored.

ave76 wrote:right now i have cubase se and for now that works fine for me. pretty soon i would like to start to selling my beats. the only reason i really want pro tools is because i figure if i have it then if some one want to buy a beat from me then i could just sell them the beat and the pro tools file that way if they need to they mix the levels of the beat according the way they like. being that pro tools is almost the standard in most studios, is this a good idea?

I personally think this is a valid reason to choose PT. Even though you can export files that you can import into anything.....it's easier if you have PT, and if you've already done some of the mixing and/or tweaking, the recipient of your PT session will have less work to do.
Plus, if you get good at PT, you could always get gigs as a PT engineer at different studios.
So, not totally necessary, but lots of positives.

topic of research needed: DIGITRANSLATOR

read up and then come back with q's if you still got em

having pro tools would definately convenient for transfering mixes from home studio to pro studio. I imagine that more people bring in non pro tools disks from home studios then pro tools sessions. So as convenient as it may be for the engineer he is there to accomodate your needs($$$$).

The 32 limit track count on LE systems is garbage. This is Digidesigns way of hinting to cats to make the HD plunge. Pretty greedy it's either low-budget deluxe or turn your pockets inside out. No mid-level sh*t, Digidesign is wack for that. Also, there are these little bugs that exist with LE systems that skew compatibility from time to time. Another one of Digi's 'hints'.

With Cubase, Logic, etc. your track count is based on processing power not built-in limitations. If you decide that you want to mix out 24 or 32 to a console, LE systems, nope!! But with anything else you can get like Apogee D/A 16's and make a great modular recording setup and mix OTB if you want...LE systems MAX is 16 using the lame analog outs + optical ADAT outs..thumbs down. But check this if you mix a beat leave the plugins and volume settings alone and bounce each track to a drive or CD, you can re-import the files in any DAW system and basically have the same mix. Only thing, you'd have to hit up your client in the studio with some panning information no big deal! I'm stuck in 001 hell because of the Mac OS X limitations. Basically my G4 wasn't good enough for me to upgrade to 10 and get an 002, I would have had to buy another card or sum'n...f*ckin con artists these companies..first chance I get financially, I will def. get Cubase or Nuendo....anyway I'm out...my 2/100.. 5000

"I personally think this is a valid reason to choose PT."

So lets buy it since every one else is using it? Is that how you ended with your MPC?

So you like to pick products on popularity and not on their merit? Let's hope your real job does not involved personal safety.

it doesnt matter what you use, as long as u can make it sound good to yourself above anyone else first, is all that matters....as said above, a good engineer knows how to get a .wav files into his or her system with todays mandatory studio equipment.

but again, i understand if also you just wanna do it with ease, but like some peeps say you going to spend the bucks for something else that you could use to pretty much do most of the same things with, i mean i got Pro Tools Digi 002 at home and the Pro Tools HD at the office... and once u break it down for yourself and say, i can spend less then a G, get a board wit about 8 inputs and some software, convert it to .wav so it can go into Pro Tools somewhere else, you staight...

i love pro tools and it works like magic with my mpc.
i used to run logic and i hated it.
i have tried other programs but i think its best to stick with one and figure it out.
i have taken pro tools files into a larger studio many times and there has only ever been one problem and that was a midi issue.
i have never had a hard time or been stressed by the track limit.
my partner makes all his beats in pro-tools and he has never ran out of room.
go with pro-tools
its a great program and one that will improve your beats and your recording knowledge.
peace

sorry for the long delay, right now i'm in iraq so it's not often that i,m on a pc. the information that all of you provided is very useful. i think after reading all of the replys i'm going to stick with cubase. there were a lot of good points made, thanks a lot, out

mpc3000 wrote:"I personally think this is a valid reason to choose PT."

So lets buy it since every one else is using it? Is that how you ended with your MPC?

So you like to pick products on popularity and not on their merit? Let's hope your real job does not involved personal safety.

Please don't put words in my mouth.
I never said anything about "popularity."

The reason I chose PT -IN PART- is because I knew there were certain people using PT that I was going to be collaborating with and would probably be exchanging sessions with back and forth on a regular basis. Rather than have to export....convert.....and re-do the mix every time we trade....it steered me toward ProTools.

As far as merit goes...PT does everything I personally need it to do - same reason I chose the MPC.
What reason more do I need?



Man 3000, for someone who seems like he has a lot of knowledge and abilty to help people out.........most of your posts that I see consist of condescending remarks and one-upsmanship. It's a shame.

"most of your posts that I see consist of condescending remarks and one-upsmanship"

Mostly for off-topic posts. Of course I am going to be condescending after wasting time sifting through the noise.

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