Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Luigi Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:28 pm
I thougt everyone should drop som tips on sampling drums.

I can start.. 8)

What u do is.
U sample your drums into yout computer(from vinyl of corse :-p)
the u cut out the drum, with a little space from the start and end
open your wav editor, normalice the drum, maybe ad some eq
them set up so your mp samples what comes out of the computer
then loop the sample, and open the sample windown in the mp, now u can mess with the rec gain button so u get the exact volume that u what(maybe turn it up for some crunsh)

another thing u can do is timestretch and pitchshift your drums, u can have 5 different drums from just 1 drum.. crazy...

or u just sample into the mp, but i belive that the soundcards samples better, but stil u sample it in in the mp, so u still get that "mpc sound on the drum"
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By M.ic P.ro C.rusher Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:17 pm
Here's the only one I can think of:

When you want a snare or kick, but there's a hi hat over it, don't worry about it, chances are, in your beat, there will be a hi hat there anyway, so your own hi hat will just cover it up.
By L. Tombstone Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:22 pm
:lol: WTF was I talkin about this is about 'sampling' drums not programming..So here goes...When sampling (primarily snares and hats) grab more than one snare or hat from the break you are chopping. If you filter this trick is great for hats because you can go beyond velocity and all that and actually have different sounding hits from jump.

Using multiple hits gives your drums more variety than just using one snare, hat, etc. I DON'T recommend this for kicks, IMO the kick should hit the same just about every time within reason of course. 8) 5000
Last edited by L. Tombstone on Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

By The Beat Conductor Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:18 pm
If you want high quality drum sounds, don't sample them from professional hip-hop songs. The best thing to do is to learn EQ and compression.
By lo-fi Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:48 pm
Luigi wrote:What u do is.
U sample your drums into yout computer(from vinyl of corse :-p)
the u cut out the drum, with a little space from the start and end
open your wav editor, normalice the drum, maybe ad some eq
them set up so your mp samples what comes out of the computer
then loop the sample, and open the sample windown in the mp, now u can mess with the rec gain button so u get the exact volume that u what(maybe turn it up for some crunsh)


OR... Just sample straight into the MPC and save yourself some time/work. Just make sure you're as close to clipping as possible whithout actually clipping - at least on samples that need to be loud in the mix.
Then set your levels in the MPC's mixer page so you have a basic mix that you can fine tune on the desk.

DON'T turn up the gain when re-sampling a normalized sample for some 'crunsh', because you'll be overloading the AD converters and get nasty clipping and digital distortion.

By morgan Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:48 am
My tip is don't worry too much about a little bit of clipping, especially on snares, cause the clip helps it cut through the mix.

By simcity Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:53 am
Two to three kicks, especially one for after a snare. Make sure you get a low thick noise to layer on the kick. Two snares, the brighter one first in the sequence. Maybe another sound or two to layer on the snares. Two hihats, maybe a ride and some room ambience to layer over the whole things. Easy.
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By mpc4000xl Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:21 pm
When Reprogramin' A Loop After u Have Ur Hitz KICK SNARE ETC......


TRY samplin some of the Vinyl Crackle off that record or some of the dead
space between open Drumz.............

to make this easier to catch pitch it down or slow down the vinyl B4 sampling'.......................


then LOOP That noise for the duration of the Reprogramed loop and Adjust the Volume or even Play with the Filter a Lil IF u Like....................


BANG.......Nice Ambience!!!!!!!
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By jaem Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:55 pm
morgan wrote:My tip is don't worry too much about a little bit of clipping, especially on snares, cause the clip helps it cut through the mix.


I can safely eat an ice cream cone in hell now.....

Digital clipping sounds great guys :roll: :roll: :roll:

By pad-ophiliac Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:53 pm
sample in mono
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By cluster Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:05 pm
jaem wrote:
morgan wrote:My tip is don't worry too much about a little bit of clipping, especially on snares, cause the clip helps it cut through the mix.


I can safely eat an ice cream cone in hell now.....

Digital clipping sounds great guys :roll: :roll: :roll:



I was thinking the same thing... Shit I just saw a pig fly by my window... where's my gun, time for some bacon...

Maybe he's talking about analog recording, thats my guess.

By dennison Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:06 pm
sample in stereo. I never am crunched for memory and the stereo sample gives you more options on how to mess with the sound. !!!warning if you are a fan of really old 12 bit machines with low memory this may not be practical!!!

By pad-ophiliac Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:07 pm
dennison wrote:sample in stereo. I never am crunched for memory and the stereo sample gives you more options on how to mess with the sound. !!!warning if you are a fan of really old 12 bit machines with low memory this may not be practical!!!


its not a memory issue.
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By jaem Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:11 pm
cluster wrote:
I was thinking the same thing... **** I just saw a pig fly by my window... where's my gun, time for some bacon...



HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

nope he's said cut through the mix....and unless he's rocking some old school analog multitrack.............
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By M.ic P.ro C.rusher Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:22 pm
dennison wrote:sample in stereo. I never am crunched for memory and the stereo sample gives you more options on how to mess with the sound. !!!warning if you are a fan of really old 12 bit machines with low memory this may not be practical!!!


My drums seem to hit harder if I sample 'em in mono. I sample most other things in stereo, but I like the punch a mono kick has