keyboard beats

I'm trying to branch off into this, I played clairnet for about 15 years so i undertand scales and reading music, I bought a jazz panio book and can already play a few songs out of it. I can play a few chords to the beat and get them to sound good, but this is where I'm lost at, how do you keyboard guys get ideas,

I got 2 keyboards and STILL can't play. I just fake it in real time and the rest I program and move ticks around into the spots I want them in.

How do I get ideas, the same way that you freestyle a clarinet peice. It's not written or anything you just go with what's in your head.

fake it, till you make it it, yep you were in the navy,lol

bhunt wrote:I'm trying to branch off into this, I played clairnet for about 15 years so i undertand scales and reading music, I bought a jazz panio book and can already play a few songs out of it. I can play a few chords to the beat and get them to sound good, but this is where I'm lost at, how do you keyboard guys get ideas,

Just sit behind it and start hitting keys....Do not sit down to make a beat, just sit to play around....In the process you will come across something hot and thats when you start to make a beat....This may seem like a bullsh!t reply but try this and your bond to come up with something!!!!

the beauty of midi: get as close as you can then move it around until it sounds right

real musicians hate midi and quatization

"real" musicians died in the early 50s

nevertheless i hate quantization too, just because it's ruining everyone's drums

bhunt wrote:fake it, till you make it it, yep you were in the navy,lol

Ha, pretty much.

"real musicians hate midi and quatization"
That's a very pretty statement, your pretty too aren't you?

"nevertheless i hate quantization too, just because it's ruining everyone's drums "
Yeah, veterans suggest to the noobs NO timing, as a result their drums SUCK for a LONG time until they actually get timing down. In the meanwhile I'm subjected to more of those "off timed" beats in your music section.

But that's how learning goes I guess.

Antonym wrote:"real" musicians died in the early 50s

TheFirstJimBo wrote:real musicians hate midi and quatization

let me guess, your a real musican

i'm a musician and i quantize my drums.
i tend to turn quantize off when i sequence my strings and paino.

"real" musicians died in the early 50s" ??

Antonym
there are some real musicians left.

that's a broad statement, not very wise, but broad nontheless
hancock, wonder, james and corea are a few that come to mind

plus shat loads of others-i mean come on who seriously believes the number of those electronic composers/producers is greater than those playing traditional instruments? we are far out numbered, the statement is quite simply wrong......

greg

TheFirstJimBo wrote:real musicians hate midi and quatization

LOL whatever, im a classical pianist, and when i make beats i use quantize (depending on the feel) and MIDI is the most important aspect of my setup. There are plenty of real musicians that will pull ur card on that...
That’s a lame statement....

Anyway as far as ideas
Everybody works differently, personally i sit there and make an entire beat in my head before i even sit down and play it. That’s just how i work. Its weird but i see the notes in my head and arrange them(obviously the process is different when im sampling)

Other people just go by train and error, just band on ish randomly until they get a melody going and build on that.

Either way sense u already know musical scales and chords, if i were in you case i would practice major/minor chord progressions. Once u get a progression you like, invert the chord and add your own melody to it, bam u got ur original sound. Most beats are only made up of 2 or 3 chords anyway. So i would really start there.

Hope this helps

class...

I was just thinking at work and i wanted to give a real world example of what i just posted.

Since u said u played clarinet for 15 im assuming u have some basic knowledge of theory and chords

A pretty common Chord progression is

E major, to
A minor 7, to
C major (or C major 7) back to
E major

Now u can take this chord progression and invert the A major 7 and C major chords and get a totally different feel. Once u got the chords down just add your own rhythm and feel and BAM u got some original ish.

Again i just wanted to give u a practical application of what I was talking about

class....

Appreciate the knowledge classic but you REALLY need to work on the spelling. It's very distracting when trying to read what you're saying.