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By Air Adam Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:30 am
Does this feature mean that you'll be able to assign a small part of a larger sample to a pad without having to use any extra memory to extract it to a separate sample? I'm not too fussed about any kind of automatic chopping, I just want to be able to refer to a subsection of a sample - especially since it means if I get it a bit wrong, I can just adjust the start and end points.

By Jenre Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:59 am
How well does zoning actually work in the 2kxl though? because a lot of the time these things can cut off the attack of a sample. is there anyway you can just move the start time back a little after zoning to fix this?
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By d_loc Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:23 am
is there a faster way to scroll through samples than to use the data wheel? I am sick of twisting that flimsy piece of styrofoam....
By kingquota Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:09 pm
sparq wrote:
kingquota wrote:
sparq wrote:
Kayelel wrote:Man I look forward to it - so damn tired of running all my samples through ReCycle (though it's a great application, I just wanna do all te work on my mpc)

Don't know if the news has been mentioned here before. Couldn't find anything on it.


you can actually zone in the 1000. just not the way you think. check out my video on chopping on the 1k.


where is that video at?

i dotn believe it, man if i worked at akai help and support, and i was getting complaints every other day about the same requests, i'd respond in a misleading way. its cool if we get it, but i bet 10$ to 1$ that we wont.


http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... &start=180

just scroll down until you see my post with a list of videos.


niiiice videos. wow, you put some effort into those to make sure anybody can do it.

i was kinda hoping you had a miracle trick to make it easier, cause i was already familiar with that way, except i rename everything in the process too.

regardless, good work man.

By JIHAD7234 Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:19 pm
I can live with out zoning I would like for akai to add delay. I use reverb amd delay on almost every thing I do on the puter. I need delay damm it.
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By Antonym Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:33 pm
the mpc 1000 already has delay
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By Antonym Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:38 pm
man i'm curious as to how this zoning thing will work, i''ve never owned a machine other than th 1k. does it actually chop up the file, or just create reference points that can be changed later? if the latter, can you still apply attack/decay on the individual pieces, even if they're not separate files?

so exciting. this doesn't make the mpc more powerful, just even cuter.

in other, totally unrelated news i'm thinking about transferring from George Mason university to American university or Virginia Tech....where they have really good sound engineering programs...wish me luck!

By sparq Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:43 pm
Antonym wrote:man i'm curious as to how this zoning thing will work, i''ve never owned a machine other than th 1k. does it actually chop up the file, or just create reference points that can be changed later? if the latter, can you still apply attack/decay on the individual pieces, even if they're not separate files?


here is a video demonstrating chopping and zoning on the 2000xl

http://www.hiphopproduction.com/video/chopping01.rm
http://www.hiphopproduction.com/video/chopping02.rm


this is what everyone is talking about for the 1000
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By Antonym Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:33 pm
haha sparq i scorn realplayer and you should too...

i'll just wait, i guess, and read the mpc2000xl's manual. thanks though

By sparq Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:59 pm
Antonym wrote:haha sparq i scorn realplayer and you should too..


why?
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By Penfold Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:10 pm
ONE wrote:
Penfold wrote:lazy buggers!


The only Lazy buggers are Akai for not developing their sh!t before they put it out and making cats wait for 2-3 flowers years for the functionality of their machines to be commensurate with the asking price, and still be sub par with the technology that is being used by other companies.


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! FULLY!!!! but we all know this and accept it but still complain and still buy there shit! so hence i still lazy buggers but really ur RIGHT!

By ONE Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:53 pm
Penfold wrote:
ONE wrote:
Penfold wrote:lazy buggers!


The only Lazy buggers are Akai for not developing their sh!t before they put it out and making cats wait for 2-3 flowers years for the functionality of their machines to be commensurate with the asking price, and still be sub par with the technology that is being used by other companies.


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! FULLY!!!! but we all know this and accept it but still complain and still buy there ****! so hence i still lazy buggers but really ur RIGHT!


haha

I ain't buying their ish no more........ :lol:

Only thing I'm using that's akai now is the dps12, and at a future date I'm sure I won't be using that either. I'm using it until the wheels fall off then I'll use something else non Akai or maybe computer based for recording.

There's so much more out there for gear, and other companies are making leaps and bounds with their gear and it's going under the radar of a lot of hip hop cats because it comes in a different package than the beatbox MPC.

No one has to be reliant on Akai or MPC's. You want real time timestretch? Delay? Timestretch? Note shifting? Zoning? etc. etc. well go buy something that has all of what you are looking for and be happy, because it's out there for you, even if it's not in your MPC. I just realized this.

Instead of belly aching and wishing the 1k had this and that and being disappointed because there was a lot of things I couldn't do with it, I said flowers it and bought something that had everything I needed, and I'm kicking myself because I should have bought something like this in the first damn place instead of just buying something that was known for making ruff hip hop beats.

I purchased the Triton Extreme, and I'm really happy with it. The sampling engine is killer, it uses cf card and loads wav files. Has both a master and a slave usb port for cd rom, hard drive or even a usb hub to connect a bunch of ish. Has tons of dope sounds. The tube that it has makes things sound really warm and gives enough bass to bring down the house. The tbe tube really transforms and gives madd feel to sounds. Efx are killer, has that same timestretching capabilities as the 2500, also has something that is exactly like recycle. You can put in as much slices wherever you want in a sample, and it's all layed out across the keys. The sequencer has tons more options. If I want that gritty sound I can change the bit rate of samples to as low as 8 bit I believe and it actually sounds really good.

So basically I can make any style of music with this thing even the old fashioned dirty boom bap to lil jon ish if I wanted to. It's just that versatile. Plus, I'm starting to learn keys and learn about synthesis hands on, and it's in the same price range as an MPC. This type of thing is labeled more as a crunk or a pop machine, but if cats would open their eyes and see what the capabilities of the machines are instead of WHO uses them and for what style it's primarily "known" for and made their purchases based on that, I think we would have more happy beatmakers in the world.

By kingquota Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:57 pm
Antonym wrote:the mpc 1000 already has delay


what delay? and where is it?
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By swishaman Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:02 pm
time strecth and zoning is all I need and my mpc is complete
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By Antonym Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:02 pm
program in the event delays in descending velocity. this is actually more effective than delay because you can choose how much feedback and exactly how many echos you want. or, if you want the whole thing to have the same number of delays, select everything and copy it a couple ticks later 3 or 4 times.

i've been doign it this way for so long that when i use delay fx, hardware or software, i am somewhat frustrated by the lack of detail editing available.

this mpc workaround is good if you want delays that are fairly loud. if you're talking about subtlty, then you will want to use a delay box or just wait for when you track out your beat to put it on.

i'd like delay on the mpc, but honestly i never use any of the non-filter effects on it whatsoever. not worth the hassle.