is there a way to track out beats without midi?

yeha, having a midi interface is a trade off, alittle loss in accuracy, but i can use my mpc as a controller in some applications.

knowing that theres no other way to do it like midi, but with midi, is enough incentive to finally by a midi supported soundcard.

thanks everyone for all the opinions. and excuse my bad wording, i should have had my initial post laid out more clear.

thanks lampdog, your method is worthy, as thats how i do it now. i just hope you understand, im looking for something that cant make human error. and i make stupid mistakes sometimes.

ive had tracks open, cut the wrong peiece, in the wrong places, got distracted, came back, saved and exited, then the next day ot whatever, i noticed on play back, that i made a mistake, and am forceed to transfer back to my mpc and re-track out. (only have the 32mb still)

i usually do more than one at a time, usually on sundays, then throughout the week, i'll mix them down, then add vocals or whatever.

running into problems like that are a big letdown. i usually get all physed up to record. then realize i made an error on my part.

im just trying to minimize human error. thats all

im looking for something that cant make human error. and i make stupid mistakes sometimes.

read my post it might help you

kingquota wrote:thanks everyone for all the opinions. and excuse my bad wording, i should have had my initial post laid out more clear.

It's all good big dog.

kingquota wrote:thanks lampdog, your method is worthy, as thats how i do it now. i just hope you understand, im looking for something that cant make human error. and i make stupid mistakes sometimes.

It's a method used and proven by more than just a few people actually.
No human error, I hold the record for human error when I was tracking
out my boys vocals last year. Out of all my producer friends and their
emcees, Ihad to do like 75 takes for 1 verse from one of my boys that
raps. It was VERY tiring night.

kingquota wrote:ive had tracks open, cut the wrong peiece, in the wrong places, got distracted, came back, saved and exited, then the next day ot whatever, i noticed on play back, that i made a mistake, and am forceed to transfer back to my mpc and re-track out. (only have the 32mb still)

Gotta get creative with beat, memory storage and other thingsFrom what I've seen, heard and experienced (I have 32mb w/ my 2kxl) 32mb gives you plenty of room to get creative.

kingquota wrote:i usually do more than one at a time, usually on sundays, then throughout the week, i'll mix them down, then add vocals or whatever. running into problems like that are a big letdown. i usually get all physed up to record. then realize i made an error on my part.

Errors are gonna happen regardless, you just gotta read, experiment and develop techniques of your own to get around and/or avoid and minimize them.

I have the 1k, can you mtc it to a software (trak -n ) one at a time. that's what I do with tha 2000xl. I use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (Adobe Audition 1.5). If so, why not trak it that waY.

DJ-T wrote:I have the 1k, can you mtc it to a software (trak -n ) one at a time. that's what I do with tha 2000xl. I use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (Adobe Audition 1.5). If so, why not trak it that waY.

to use any kind of sync protocol, he would still need midi cables. if i understood him correctly he was trying to find a way to do it without midi. if not, then my bad for misunderstanding.

I personally wanted to know, because I'm thinking about giving my 2000xl to a friend, since the new os. but yeah your correct on having midi cable ,an midi inteface between the mp and the pc would work just fine to trak one at a time, that's what I do with the xl and cool edit program. I was just asking for my self , I havn't even used 1k had for about 6 months. T"

DJ-T wrote:I was just asking for my self , I havn't even used 1k had for about 6 months. T"

keep in mind that the protocol the 1k uses b4 and after the os update is only midi clock.

ultimately it would be nice to upgrade the 1k midi sync , so that it would have MTC as well. another ???
which won do you use to midi sync your keyboards , module's etc (seq on).T"

DJ-T wrote:ultimately it would be nice to upgrade the 1k midi sync , so that it would have MTC as well. another ???

it sure would be!

thepillage wrote:ADOBBE AUDIOTN UNFORTUNATYL DOES NOT SUPPORT ASIO YET, WHICH MEANS EVEN IF YUR SOUNDCARD HAS 10 INPUTS, IT WONT RECORD EACH INPUT ON ITS ON TRACK, IT CAN ONLY RECORD THE WHOLE MIX ON ONE TRACK, LAMPDOGS METHOD SEEMS REAL GOOD AND I FEEL LIKE A DUMBASS FOR NOT THINKING ABOUT IT

I use Vegas, supports asio, breaksout my digi001 into tracks, easier to get around in than auditiion, cleaner interface also.

i disagree about the midi delay thing.
i was messing around with a track a while back and it had these 2 seperate tracks of tabla hits, and they were like battling or at least thats what i was trying to do , and there were many occasions where they hit at the same time and phasing occured.

you'd be able to tell if any of the tracks were delayed because the phasing would change, but it was the same!

both are now under sony media software.
acid is a prog not a company.

both were originally made by the same company and have some of the same features. if u r cool w/ acid u can figure out vegas easily.

thepillage wrote:

kingquota wrote:im having problems here;

i want to record beats to my computer, each track individually.

i want to use the digital outs, doing each instrument at a time. yes i know it takes time, but there is a reason why i want to do it this way.

im using adobe audition 1.5

i can get it to record, but when it comes to trying to line up my tracks, its like im mixing the whole thing all over again. is there a way to syncronize my output with the input of adobe audition without using midi?

yes i did a serach, but i didn't find anything useful,m and was hoping for a more direct response.

ADOBBE AUDIOTN UNFORTUNATYL DOES NOT SUPPORT ASIO YET, WHICH MEANS EVEN IF YUR SOUNDCARD HAS 10 INPUTS, IT WONT RECORD EACH INPUT ON ITS ON TRACK, IT CAN ONLY RECORD THE WHOLE MIX ON ONE TRACK, LAMPDOGS METHOD SEEMS REAL GOOD AND I FEEL LIKE A DUMBASS FOR NOT THINKING ABOUT IT

you can sync and record one track at a time in adobe audition or cool edit, or protools,etc , if you don't have 10 outs. it's using midi time code, smpte,this is what allows you to control the software to be master to the mpc. T"

PS look down in the right corner of CE and AA click on Advanced