Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By Renessis Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:44 pm
I've been using my 60 for about 3 months now and this is a new problem for me. It seems like my pads are "going out". They are either too sensative or not sensative at all. I can't even think about 16th note hats right now cause they all sounds stuttered and doubled up. ARG and if I wanna do light kicks or w/e they all sound full velocity or they don't even trigger. The first month or so I had little to no problems. Now it seems like I cant get a damn drum track done. I'm about to say **** it and sell my 60 for a damn sp12 since I mainly use it for drums because I'm still working on my technique in between 50 hours of class a week.

By 2wice Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:07 am
I think new pad sensors are about $100.
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By Renessis Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:08 am
Is that for each pad?

By 2wice Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:10 am
Na thats for all
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By Renessis Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:12 am
oh thank the lord man, I was about to have a heart attack...
Now I just gotta get $100 together hehe.

By elmacaco Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:37 am
Sounds like a loose connection to me, possibly a dirty ribbon cable.

open it up and make sure all the cables are seated correctly. maybe clean the pad sensors, that can cause problems too.
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By Renessis Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:47 pm
Thanks fellas, I knew I could count on the board to help me out. I'm gonna pop the top as soon as I get home from class. :mrgreen:

By fobedafied Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:07 pm
IM HAVING SIMILAR SYMPTOMS WITH MY 60!!!

exactly how do you open up and clean the pads on a MKII?? ive checked out the FAQ and didnt see anything regarding this, did i miss something?? i know how to open up and get to the SCSI board and EPROMs and memory area, but i dont remember having access to the pads through this area...
id like to tryt and clean the pads/sensors before i have to buy new pads and sensors since ive already pumped mad cash into this thing...
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By Florre Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:13 pm
loose connection could be it.

Few weeks after I had bought mine , maybe 3 pads started actin up (tryin to record a 1bar loop and suddenly my untouched tom 3 starts playin :? ) or a hihat pad that suddenly starts being multi-tapped by unknown forces. weird stuff.

So one day I opened up this old ****, and started cleaning like hell, every board unscrewed, cleaned with q-tips, took out the little hihatfader (used some oil to make it smooth again), the plastic buttons. Unplugged the board beneath the drumpads, put the rubber pad thing in a bowl of warmish water, gently whiped off the dust of the sensor thingy etc.

>>> the results in the end 8) :

16 operating drumpads (instead of 12)
no pads actin up
I can use my very smooth hihat glider option for the first time

be careful with it, and it might work out..

good luck

Florre
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By Florre Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:14 pm
I' ve got some pics concerning the cleaning, could get them online in a few days..
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By Renessis Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:28 pm
Word Florre, that would be dope if you could post some pics. :)

By elmacaco Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:54 pm
it;s the same on both Mk I and II, you have to get right beneath the pads, and unscrew the plate, it's pretty self explanitory once you get under there, you may have to remove a ribbon cable or disconnect the slider board to pull out the sensor board, but once you clean it you should be alright. If the cleaning doesn;t do it, my last most to the FAQ concerns the ribbon foil care and feeding, but not for the faint of heart.
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By Florre Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:28 am
NOTE: I did this all on myself, so don't take all of this for granted, ask the experienced members if you really got technical questions.

also removed "1" & "3", for drumpads, just remove "2"

I've got some pics, think they're pretty selfexplanatory

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popped the trunk of mpc, the front side in the air 1 = full level/hihat glider board 2= drumpads
(3=(mkI) the -6- screws attaching the ill leather armrest! there can be a lot of dirt underneath it)

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all the red dots are screws who need to be removed, the red lines indicate a ribbon that needs to be plugged out (I don't think the one at the right needs to be plugged out, you can gently shove the drumpadboard). Be gentle!

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>>>close up (close to "1")

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"1" removed

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"1" & "2" removed

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"2" removed: rubber pad + sensors + metal thing

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scuzi for the bad english

I'll let the other members add additional info if required
Last edited by Florre on Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:37 am, edited 1 time in total.

By elmacaco Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:15 pm
Nice going Florre, This should go into the FAQ.

But the thin ribbon at the bottom of board number 2 does not need to be removed, it can be removed to clean it, but it is not necessary to get at the drum pads.

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I mean the one here ^^^^^^^^^^^


That's the one I cleaned and fixed in my last FAQ post where I scraped some corrosion off and had so fix a crack in a trace to get my pad 13 to stop false triggering.

What is insteresting to me is my pad sensors are a different color. Mine aren;t that dark brown, they are like a yellowish faded clear color (except for the sensors themselves, that;s the same).

anyone else seen their pad sensors?

Florre, I'd appreciate it if you would copy your post into the faq for posterity. We try to add the best info there so it's all in one place for all 60 owners,

By 2wice Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:20 pm
elmacaco wrote:What is insteresting to me is my pad sensors are a different color. Mine aren;t that dark brown, they are like a yellowish faded clear color (except for the sensors themselves, that;s the same).

anyone else seen their pad sensors?


Yeah, mine look like Florre's.