getting that original sp 1200 sound

I know on my xpro u can lower the bitrate after the sample is done. Cant u do that on the 4000? I dont know cause i dont own it

Beat God wrote:the days when the sp1200 reigned are the days that i hated drums in hip hop. that ish is nasty and not in a good way.

elmacaco wrote: if you don't like the sp-1200 sound you can't be a beat god, sorry but that's grounds for disqualification right there. So is liking swizz beats style triton preset drums

see im on the pete rock ish so you know what that style consist of i use soundforge and adobe audition for waveform editing do you guys know any other software which might have what i need to get the gritty sound so i can export it into my 4000 im willing to work at it down to my last breathe man let a bro know what he should do thanks.

doesn't Soundforge have some feature where you can go 12bit and lower? I don't have it, but I've heard of it being done before.

nyfebeats wrote:see im on the pete rock ish so you know what that style consist of i use soundforge and adobe audition for waveform editing do you guys know any other software which might have what i need to get the gritty sound so i can export it into my 4000

im willing to work at it down to my last breathe man let a bro know what he should do thanks.

Man, if it's that important to you to get the SP sound to the point where you're "willing to work at it down to [your] last breath"..........

Why not just buy a SP !?!

You can either sync it up with MIDI Clock........or you can sample your sounds into the SP first, then re-sample into your 4000, so you have more sequencer control.
That's how I use my SP.

1. Bit Rate (Some Also used Lower kHz Resolution 22 etc)
2. A/D Converters
3. Non-Variable Filters
Lowering the Bits only Handles 1 Part of Like A 3 PART ISSUE...........

..just to add to these main points: The SP machines also has incredible snappy VCAs. Never underestimate the importance of VCAs over their digital equivalents (MPC4000 etc etc).

Also, regarding the SP's legendary SSM2044 filters. On outs 3&4 and 5&6 they have set cutoff, pair 5&6 wider than 3&4. But dont forget that the outs 1 and 2 had a simple fixed AR (attack/release) envelope on the filter with about a 5ms attack, slower release. This filter is the most closed but is the one that a lot of user put little loops etc through because of the cool little AR filter envelope.

So, there really are dozens of reasons for the SP machines unique sound. In summary to the question that seems to come up every week:

Question: Can I get an SP sound by re-sampling on my MPC4000 at 12 bit?
Answer: No!!!

itchyvinyl wrote:

Beat God wrote:the days when the sp1200 reigned are the days that i hated drums in hip hop. that ish is nasty and not in a good way.

elmacaco wrote: if you don't like the sp-1200 sound you can't be a beat god, sorry but that's grounds for disqualification right there. So is liking swizz beats style triton preset drums

sorry but as a drummer the sp1200 sounds like a$$

Beat God wrote:sorry but as a drummer the sp1200 sounds like a$$

I'm a drummer too......since I was a little kid.

The SP is the king of grime. I love it.










It takes different strokes to move the world......yes it does.

i bought my sp off a drummer that would tear you up. n a sp can sound clean if you do things right. you sound like a freshman dissin a sp not like a beat god. but you are entitled to your opinion

Beat God is no Freshman, homie has dropped more knowledge here than most will pick up, I was just joking with dude, he is entitled to hs opinion.

punkdISCO wrote:

1. Bit Rate (Some Also used Lower kHz Resolution 22 etc)
2. A/D Converters
3. Non-Variable Filters
Lowering the Bits only Handles 1 Part of Like A 3 PART ISSUE...........

..just to add to these main points: The SP machines also has incredible snappy VCAs. Never underestimate the importance of VCAs over their digital equivalents (MPC4000 etc etc).

Also, regarding the SP's legendary SSM2044 filters. On outs 3&4 and 5&6 they have set cutoff, pair 5&6 wider than 3&4. But dont forget that the outs 1 and 2 had a simple fixed AR (attack/release) envelope on the filter with about a 5ms attack, slower release. This filter is the most closed but is the one that a lot of user put little loops etc through because of the cool little AR filter envelope.

So, there really are dozens of reasons for the SP machines unique sound. In summary to the question that seems to come up every week:

Question: Can I get an SP sound by re-sampling on my MPC4000 at 12 bit?
Answer: No!!!

YO PUNK------ CAN I GET A NAME QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!(MPC4000XL)...............

Sorry Thats Just A Pet PEVE OF MINE...........And IN MY POST I ALWAYS GIVE PROPZ to MY REFERENCES..............


And YES I AGREE WITH YOU but i Wouldn't Say

Originally posted by punkdISCO:
So, there really are dozens of reasons for the SP machines unique sound.

But it IS FAR MORE THAN 12bit Sampling...........
I REALLY DID STATE THE MAIN ONES because I KNOW OF MANY Who Sample their Samples Through the SP And Then DONT TOUCH IT AT ALL
and For most this is the sound they are lookin for and this Primarilly comes through the converter and the Non-Variable filter................




AND NOW GO SAMPLE AND HAVE MUCH FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Something Like That wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The SP does have a specil sound to it that seperates if from other samplers. Sure sounds different than my 60, an 30 and the're both 12bit. I couldn't tell you why it does this, but the SP will always have a special spot in my heart. I like the variable sampling rates on the S950 though...you can work some magic with that feature.

[quote="Something Like That"]

I couldn't tell you why it does this, but the SP will always have a special spot in my heart.


I KNOW U KNOW UR SAMPLERS and Sampling But TRUST ME THIS is the REASON: I Stated this Above




THE BOTTOM LINE.......................................


OLDER SAMPLERz NOT ONLY SAMPLED at LOW BIT RATES (8, 10, 12) but Had Better Sounding A/D Converters ALSO WHAT IS NOT OFTEN MENTIONED IS these low bit rate samplers often had a NON -VARIABLE FILTER on their input to compensate for their limited banwidth and those 3 REASONS Cause those samples not to sound like other samples ...........................................


1. Bit Rate (Some Also used Lower kHz Resolution 22 etc)

2. A/D Converters

3. Non-Variable Filters


Lowering the Bits only Handles 1 Part of Like A 3 PART ISSUE...........


TRUST THAT

mpc4000xl wrote:YO PUNK------ CAN I GET A NAME QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!(MPC4000XL)...............

Sorry Thats Just A Pet PEVE OF MINE ...........And IN MY POST I ALWAYS GIVE PROPZ to MY REFERENCES..............

No worries dude. Point taken.. Did not realise you could add names to the quotes but will from now on..

See you,

punkdISCO wrote:

mpc4000xl wrote:YO PUNK------ CAN I GET A NAME QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!(MPC4000XL)...............

Sorry Thats Just A Pet PEVE OF MINE ...........And IN MY POST I ALWAYS GIVE PROPZ to MY REFERENCES..............

No worries dude. Point taken.. Did not realise you could add names to the quotes but will from now on..

See you,

ALL GOOD FAM...............................



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The SP1200 is the most distinctive sounding sampler I've ever heard, and it's hard to emulate with other gear, as I've described above.

i've posted this before, but i've learned how to get a DAMN close sp1200.

dx plugin - hyperprism sonic decimator (after compression on the drums)...

i've tricked people into thinking i've used an sp1200 when all i use is a mpc1000 and reason.

mpc4000 will back me up on this. it sounds DAMN close.

i for one love the sp1200 sound, but only as an effect that i would like to control. it's a beautiful grittiness, one of the most pleasing distortions ever digitally created.

as a non-drummer who has been quoted as "the most syncopated muhfukker" i highly recommend this procedure on your kicks and snares - not to mention basslines (after being recorded via spdif).