Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
By stantonstr8 Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:04 pm
under fair use are you allowed to sample single drum hits from several records and put them together cause no one would ever be able to tell you where you got a single snare hit after you had put it in a song filtered eq'd and whatever else you do to it.

By indivisibleProductions Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:27 pm
basically you can sample anything you want as long as you chop it up, it's whole loops that will get you in trouble

By stantonstr8 Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:49 pm
right you can still sample a whole loop just you are def gonna be payin some serious money for it.
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By Penfold Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:25 am
CHOP! LOOP! what ever you do u have to pay money regardless...

How you give out terrible information like that man? @indivisibleProductions

Yes, if you are creative and can dice them a touch then yes you might can catch a bly, otherwise sampling is sampling and you have to give the previous artist there dues.

thats the law....not that I care much for it, cause I sample like a mutha!
but you got to respect that fact that there are rules...so go out and read, get music law books, speak to or contact you local town hall, and get info on the copyright law. and check for your self. You will notice the word "Recognisable"
come up, this will give you a hint to what you have to do to avoid u getting clapped for money you dont have!!
By 4dahaterz Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:42 pm
this section needs to be heavily reviewed by the moderators or owners of this site, cause if any of these cats that read this Biz part might get the wrong info and catch a LAWSUIT cause of some "misintepretted" information, but then again, if who ever is serious about their money, will go out and check out the necessary process to validate all necessary steps before selling their music if they have that much love or serious about their craft....

the info above is reason enough to be critical about who you listen to about your music business facts. All and all, your primary choice should be based on your Lawyer....but you should definitely invest in "The Business of Music," and other such reference books
By sparq Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:52 pm
stantonstr8 wrote:under fair use are you allowed to sample single drum hits from several records and put them together cause no one would ever be able to tell you where you got a single snare hit after you had put it in a song filtered eq'd and whatever else you do to it.
to the letter of your question, i don't see anything wrong with single drum hits,( a kick here, a snare from there and a hat from somewhere else) it's when you get into loops and phrases that will get you looked at.
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By ^Owni Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:30 pm
Mayne... is your music that good that it will create a buzz... in the music selling scene? if you sell beats to record companies, THEY will have to clear that damn sample, not you. So.. You want all the rights to the beat? than yes you have to clear the muthaf*ka..

Take for instance that Necro production on that Cage - Radiohead track.. Everybody knows he sampled Clockwork Orange, but they only dropped it as a 12' -

You really thought MF cleared that Spiderman Sample?? - hahaha. Hey.. its everybody for himself, if You want to clear everything you wanne (try) to put out, than please do it... I aint gonne spend unnecessary dooh, without seeing any profit. read:i take the chance. :wink:
By 4dahaterz Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:09 pm
If yall can, check out this issue of SCRATCH Magazine, talks about clearing samples, and the process

The question in the magazine was asked, "I know Kanye West samples pretty much everything, but how does he get his stuff cleared? Does he have to pay the original artist or what? How do I get Permisison for sampling other people's songs"
Answer-"Most record labels handle the clearance of samples. They use independent companies such as DMG Clearances Inc. and Sample Clearance Limited to handle the clearances. They charge about $500 or $600 per song to negotiate the use. On top of that, the owner of the master recording will want to be compensated as well as the publishers. These fees can range from $500 to as much as $100,000. In addition they usually ask for a percentage of the publishing and revenue from the album and/or single sales."

hope that helps
By sparq Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:57 am
4dahaterz wrote:If yall can, check out this issue of SCRATCH Magazine, talks about clearing samples, and the process

The question in the magazine was asked, "I know Kanye West samples pretty much everything, but how does he get his stuff cleared? Does he have to pay the original artist or what? How do I get Permisison for sampling other people's songs"
Answer-"Most record labels handle the clearance of samples. They use independent companies such as DMG Clearances Inc. and Sample Clearance Limited to handle the clearances. They charge about $500 or $600 per song to negotiate the use. On top of that, the owner of the master recording will want to be compensated as well as the publishers. These fees can range from $500 to as much as $100,000. In addition they usually ask for a percentage of the publishing and revenue from the album and/or single sales."

hope that helps
even though i know about clearing samples, that article was a good read.
By 4dahaterz Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:40 am
thats why it pays to keep ya head in a book as well as just making music

By HabitualMusic Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:51 pm
getting samples? Dig deep real deep.... no your not diggin deep enough....find that rare shit man and if your puttin out street level shit I wouldnt worry bout it. If your putting out some shit thats goin to cause a stir then u probly on a lable and that means its there problem not yours. I read an article I forget when where Peat Rock was talkin about record lables pay cats to listen to albums that come out to see if they ripped off and sampled there records.

By LaidBack Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:07 am
its 70 years after an artist's death...

By J-Villa Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:21 pm
HabitualMusic wrote:I read an article I forget when where Peat Rock was talkin about record lables pay cats to listen to albums that come out to see if they ripped off and sampled there records.



payment for services similar to 'diggin'? damn...

where do i sign???