Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By silverman567 Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:03 pm
Yo,

Just curious to know how do you hook up an hardware effects unit to your MPC. Are you using when resampling or on particular channels or...I really dont know...thanks for the advice...

By ripple Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:30 pm
Fx can't be connected to the mpc itself, except like a compressor (or any insert) from the main outs but you don't want that. Use a mixer instead.
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By silverman567 Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:18 pm
So you use it when your multitracking individual tracks into computer or... im clueless man!
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By stryke Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:22 pm
If you have a mixxer use it as an insert.

By fader-pro Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:14 pm
Ina pinch you can use the output of the MPC or sound module into the FX into the Computer...You can the adjust the wet/dry mix in the fx to tweak your track. Not extremely useful for a complete mixes but if you're recording individual tracks and mixing in your computer you can probably get away with it....

By fader-pro Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:15 pm
You may also consider plug-in EFX for your computer program....cheaper and more versatile...

By nanoloop Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:40 pm
ive got the eb16 and a few multifx's units in my rack. i resample everything to my computer. and use a plethora of software and hardware tricks. but it all ends up back in the mpc.

By sleepersriddle Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:13 pm
the 'normal' way is probably to use a mixer and put the f/x on your aux send/return loop. then when you track out to the daw/multitrack you can record the wet/dry on separate channels for more control later.


but the secret of fx is there are no rules, especially if youre trying to come up with something fresh. i think its a cool idea to play a sound out of the mpc's alternate outputs, and resample thru the f/x box back into the input. you will get something different that way cause the effected sample will be subject to the mpcs filter/repitching/chopping/etc.

By Lewinlad Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:38 pm
sleepersriddle wrote:the 'normal' way is probably to use a mixer and put the f/x on your aux send/return loop. then when you track out to the daw/multitrack you can record the wet/dry on separate channels for more control later.




so then the fx or whatever is send back into the mixer via aux return loop do u control the level of the effects on the individual knobs on each channel?

alex!

By nanoloop Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:13 pm
yeh each channel has a send knob, you have a lot more controll this way as the wet signal can be eq'd, and what not.
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By Lampdog Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:14 pm
fader-pro wrote:You may also consider plug-in EFX for your computer program....cheaper and more versatile...


Yep, that's my route.

By Lewinlad Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:31 pm
ok thats great guys.

is it possible to send one effect unit to a group of imputs?
eg. my filter unit to channels 1 2 3 and 4 all at the same time, even though the filter unit has a single mono out. Then i can control the filter units sound thrugh 4 channels of the mixer all at the same time.

im trying hard to get my head around this subject. before i go by a big mixer. i have loads of synths and have only recently bought my first fx unit. (froastwave resonator) and want to see if i can control a number of synths through the single unit.


alex!

By sleepersriddle Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:47 pm
Lewinlad wrote:ok thats great guys.

is it possible to send one effect unit to a group of imputs?
eg. my filter unit to channels 1 2 3 and 4 all at the same time, even though the filter unit has a single mono out. Then i can control the filter units sound thrugh 4 channels of the mixer all at the same time.

im trying hard to get my head around this subject. before i go by a big mixer. i have loads of synths and have only recently bought my first fx unit. (froastwave resonator) and want to see if i can control a number of synths through the single unit.


alex!


your confusin me already, because you are using some of the terms backwards i think...

i wouldn't look at the filter as 'controlling' anything, instead, think of the filter like a pipe, you put something in at one end, something else comes out.

basically here's what you can do:: have one aux 'send' going from your mixer to the filter input. have another cable going from the filter output back to a seperate channel on your mixer. (or the aux return if youd rather- the aux return channel probably has less eqing options which can be good or bad.)

what you can do from here:: without changing any cables, use the 'aux send' knobs on the mixer to pick and choose which sounds go into the filter. so you can have a vocal signal going thru the filter, and you can also put a bit of the drums through the filter -at the same time-, if you want.
Those aux sends will 'split off' a bit of any channel you want, and route it to the filter input path-- you can just picture it as an imaginary '2nd mixer' that takes little bits of each channel, mixes them together, then puts that thru the aux send loop.

what you can't do:: you can't 'split up' different sounds once they are all put thru the filter at the same time. so if you put some drums and some bass thru the filter at the same time, there is no way to separate the filtered drumsound from the filtered basssound (they all get mixed together in the filter.)

Extra tip:: aux sends come in 2 types, 'pre' and 'post' fader. Better learn what that means too... :)

By Lewinlad Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:56 pm
thanks man,

i think i know what i mean but cant put it in words.

i see what ure saying, just dont understand how i get the different sounds for say 4 pr 5 different channels into the filter. but do understand once theyre come back out they are all mixer together as one and cant be separated.



im going to continue to read up around this.



alex!

By sleepersriddle Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:00 pm
you are almost there i think...

once you try a mixer with an 'aux send bus' you will get the picture.

each channel has its own knob for 'send amount'...

as I said, turning that knob splits off a bit of the signal from that channel,,, AND MIXES IT WITH ALL THE OTHER SEND SIGNALS, THEN OUT INTO THE EFFECTS UNIT.

If you get the part in caps, u will get it :) :)