Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
By ricknoel Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:24 pm
Hi there. I have recently departed from AMIC, the company that develops software for the Akai pro range of samplers. I think you will find this information useful…

As part of the improved connectivity for the fourth generation of MPCs (MPC4000, 2500, 1000), we looked at implementing Asio and midi over the USB connector.
USB midi and audio will not be available in the nest release of MPC software, this is because there are certain limitations with the core design of the MPCs DSP architecture – it was not designed with USB midi and audio in mind. Due to the nature of the market (everything ha to be connected to PC these days), we are working on a work-around. This work-around takes use of the samplers built in Ram (just under 2 megabytes) by routing the USB signals into a software encoded DSP (actually running in the samplers ram). We have been able to achieve ASIO support. While only in beta .02, it enables the following:

ASIO functionality of MPC range (1000, 2500, 4000)
Achievable latency of under 6 ms (Test machine DELL P4 2500)
Use your mpc as a midi interface and soundcard (with fully independent 2in / 4 out operation)
Multiple outputs show up as ASIO mixer channels in logic and Cubase.
Multiclient drivers allow simultaneous audio handling of direct X, MME and ASIO streams.
Multiple MPC can be used on the same machine (USB bandwidth permitting) allowing any number of combinations of MPC i/o.

If there are people interested in beta testing, please contact Akai Pro Europe.

Rick N
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By jahrome Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:32 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By shukone Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:10 pm
Sounds good... 8)

By ZAM13 Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:07 pm
What we could really use is a dedicated editor for making programs. Now theres a concept......Anything in the works?

By sparq Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:21 pm
ZAM13 wrote:What we could really use is a dedicated editor for making programs. Now theres a concept......Anything in the works?
try blue box (for pc) and pad187 (for MAC). search on the 1k forum for both. they were originally written for the 1k but they can be used for the 2.5 as well
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By King_Vitamin Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:37 am
U gonna let us in on the joke Jahrome?

This feature sounds great.

Maby Akai will sell a DSP chip upgrade in the future or somthing, kinda like Dave Smith's evolver.
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By jahrome Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:33 am
King_Vitamin wrote:
U gonna let us in on the joke Jahrome?

This feature sounds great.

Maby Akai will sell a DSP chip upgrade in the future or somthing, kinda like Dave Smith's evolver.


:lol:

Some cat (with one post in the forum) comes along with news of this amazing new feature.....

Yes, I am skeptical...not saying that this wouldn't be a good feature. Audio and MIDI over USB..on an MPC :lol: The USB functions of the 2500/1000 are primative compaired to what that 4000 can do with Aksys. I am a non-believer...just like I don't believe a 3rd party programmer will figure out how to improve the MPC 3000s OS so that it would have graphic waveform display when editing samples :wink:
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By bad mind Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:04 am
but... if it does remain true, what a feature! i can only imagine the possibilites
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By cowbell Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:16 pm
ricknoel wrote:
If there are people interested in beta testing, please contact Akai Pro Europe.

Rick N

as far as i know there is no such thing as Akai Pro Europe

By jellyjim Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:16 am
the roland sp606 doubles up as a midi and audio interface so other manafacturers have approached this idea, a dsp running in ram does seem a little odd tho, the program code to emulate a dsp chip could sit in ram but it still needs a processor to run that code, namely the one already in the mpc, so a chip not capable of a task is running an emulation of a chip that can ... hmm

also presumably when running as an audio midi interface it doesn't run as an mpc anymore, expensive audio midi card! you can get a midi interface and 2in/4out card for a couple of hundred bucks

there's no akai pro europe, there are various european distributors but only akai japan and akai pro america afaik

jim
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By DFENS Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:46 pm
its bullsh!t

If there are people interested in beta testing, please contact Akai Pro Europe.


for one thing, akai dont ever public beta test their software.

..and well, clearly, its just bullsh!t. plain and simple.

well at least he didnt write it all in CAPS
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By Krase Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:39 pm
Actually there is an Akai is Europe.

Akai Europe
Unit 9 The Christie Estate
Ivy Road Aldershot
GU12 4TX
England
Tel: 44 1252 3414 00
Fax: 44 1252 3538 10

Other than that, I don't know what else to say and whether it's real or not.

By Krase Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:41 pm
My bad, Akai IN (not is) Europe I want to say. Sorry.
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By program_insect Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:36 am
jellyjim wrote:the program code to emulate a dsp chip could sit in ram but it still needs a processor to run that code, namely the one already in the mpc, so a chip not capable of a task is running an emulation of a chip that can ... hmm



You beat me to it...getting around a DSP limitation by using the DSP to emulate a better DSP? That's not just a hardware workaround, that's a workaround of the second law of thermodynamics.