Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Jacpot Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:06 pm
Sparq brought up a good point in the 1k forum that I always pondered. Why do peeps deem it necessary to split up sounds on each track? I mean when u dump tracks, u assign each sound to its own output which in turn gets its own track on the computer or track recorder. I used to record all my drums on track 1 than move each sound to its own track. I mean the only advantage I can see in having its own track is if u wanted to mute out certain events in real time. But that dont make a difference if your gonna eventually mix down your beat on a hardware or software program. The only time I do split up my tracks is when I got the fantom hooked up. cause on the fantom u cant assign sounds to outs you assign parts to outs and if u have a crash on the same part as a hat then when u dump you dump them both. But even then, If I have sounds Im using on my mpc than I just leave the majority of them on 1 track.

By cooocooo1 Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:24 pm
if you dont have the 8 outs or have more then 8 tracks that need to be recorded then it makes it much more convenient when tracking everything out
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:38 pm
On my 2kxl, I usually make my kick and snare on track 1. after I get them where I want them I seperate them into tracks 1 and 2. It's for pre-mixing purposes INSIDE the mpc, volume, panning seperately.

On the computer if you track the sounds seprately, you can process, add effects, whatever to each track individually.. More control over each track/sound.
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By Smoove03 Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:59 pm
because you can get a much better sound by seperating the tracks. instead of adding effects to the drums as a whole, you can add effects to each individual drum.
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:25 pm
Yeah, what smoove rephrased that I said that cooocooo stated.

By 4dahaterz Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:37 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:

breaking it down in several ways... like UGK, "got that front back and side to side"
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By Smoove03 Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:38 pm
Lampdog wrote:Yeah, what smoove rephrased that I said that cooocooo stated.


:lol: :lol:

lol oh sh*t i didnt even read what yall said at first . my badz

By cooocooo1 Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:47 pm
4dahaterz wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

breaking it down in several ways... like UGK, "got that front back and side to side"


I love the shiz comin outta texas right now but it's a lil funny to me that they're basically regurgitating a lot of stuff that LA was doin 15 years ago
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By Jacpot Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:14 pm
Smoove03 wrote:because you can get a much better sound by seperating the tracks. instead of adding effects to the drums as a whole, you can add effects to each individual drum.


No u dont thats false. My beats sound exactly the same whether I play the drums all on track 1 or if I split them. When U assign the sounds to the outputs and dump them, they end up coming out split up when u put them into the cpu. Then u can apply effects to lets say the kick or just the snare. I never apply the same effects to all of my drums you know.

(Keep in mind Im talking about all on the same track on the MPC but when u assign the outputs and dump than they split up, re-read what I wrote originally.)
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By jaem Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:22 pm
^^^^

for me separation helps my workflow.....

want to quickly adjust just one drum (i dont EVER use step edit btw) just jump to that track and reprogram...

so if i got a kick/snare/hh pattern then i add a bass and now i dont like the way the kick and bass sound collectively i just have to adjust that single track without reprogramming the snare/HH as well.....

as for mixing i like using the track volume as opposed to the mixer window (less button presses) seems quicker for me
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By Jacpot Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:28 pm
Good point I feel u about the track volume.

When I dont like how the kick drum sounds overall, If I have all the drums on one track, I just erase only the kick and overdub a newone back in, to avoid replaying everything
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By Smoove03 Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:43 pm
Jacpot wrote:
Smoove03 wrote:because you can get a much better sound by seperating the tracks. instead of adding effects to the drums as a whole, you can add effects to each individual drum.


No u dont thats false. My beats sound exactly the same whether I play the drums all on track 1 or if I split them. When U assign the sounds to the outputs and dump them, they end up coming out split up when u put them into the cpu. Then u can apply effects to lets say the kick or just the snare. I never apply the same effects to all of my drums you know.

(Keep in mind Im talking about all on the same track on the MPC but when u assign the outputs and dump than they split up, re-read what I wrote originally.)


just lettin you know how i feel about it cuz. im thinkin about after the fact. after the mpc. you can get a better sound. it has worked for me and continues to. may not work for you...i probably read your question wrong, but i told you the advantages of seperating your drums. in my opinion of course......

whats false about what i said? you dont think you would get a better mix if your able to add effects to each individual sound instead of the track as a whole?

By cooocooo1 Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:54 pm
if you have a track with 24 different parts and you have the 8 outs its much easier to mute tracks 9-24 and track out 1-8 and then mute 1-8 and record 9-16, etc. etc. if you're doing everything in the MPC or you're only workin with 8 parts then I guess it's not a big deal but if you're tracking out to a multitrack then it's much easier to have everything on its own track

By Beat God Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:24 am
is this really a question? the real question is why wouldn't u seperate each part? the only reason i wouldn't do it is if i used protools le with its 32 track limit. i don't so seperation it is.

pros
can swap out a sound quickly
can change levels quickly
can eq individual part
can compress individual part
can do break downs and pattern changes quickly

cons
none stop being lazy