double time W/? Mpc

Lately I've been tryin to get some crazy drum patterns in my tracks and I've been seein alot about double time..
I read a couple threads on this technique but I'm still not sure if I'm doin it right... I'm usin the Mpc 4000

First I have a sample/melody recorded with the tempo at 83.0bpm on a 4bar loop, then I double the tempo to about 166.0bpm and change from 4 bars to 8bar also go from 1/16 to 1/32... then I start recordin my drums/ drum rolls, etc.. but then after that I'm alittle lost what to do next...? Is this technique made for the kicks and claps,snares... because my drum rolls was krazy and on point but my individual kicks were off timed and soundin like shyt as far as placement..
or do I need to record my kicks off timed that way when I drop back to the normal tempo that they'll sound insane, or record my kicks like I'm doin techno music at a faster pace?

if you double your tempo, i didnt think you would need to change to 1/32. how does it sound to you when you do that? i bet you can get some crazy hihats like that. i think if you changed it back to 1/16 when you're recording your kicks and/or snares, you shouldnt have that problem with them.

try that out, man. double time can really give you a good feel

if you're doubling your tempo, and you should switch TC to 1/8, which is the same as 1/16 at regular tempo. 1/32 would be 1/64 quantize so that might be messing with your timing if you're not hitting the note at the exact desired point.

also, i could be wrong, but since the 4000 already has a high resolution clock, there might not be a big advantage to doubling the tempo. just a thought.

melton wrote:also, i could be wrong, but since the 4000 already has a high resolution clock, there might not be a big advantage to doubling the tempo. just a thought.

word.

i think sequencing in double tempo only makes sense, if you set tc to 1/32 (which means you get 1/64, imho not very interesting for us) or set it to off, cause then, your unquantized beats will be more like that, what you played...

melton wrote:if you're doubling your tempo, and you should switch TC to 1/8, which is the same as 1/16 at regular tempo. 1/32 would be 1/64 quantize so that might be messing with your timing if you're not hitting the note at the exact desired point.

yeah what he said..

I've done it alot on my triton and 2kxl, works fine, I do drop down to 1/8 for the basic first drum recording, then up the timing when I wanna get complex. a rough example of my double timing on triton is on my soundclick page "listen to me".. It's a quick little xperimental beat.

*yawn*

melton wrote:also, i could be wrong, but since the 4000 already has a high resolution clock, there might not be a big advantage to doubling the tempo. just a thought.

yep yep yep,you don't need to do this homie.your good to go,now go make some bangers

good lookin out on the tips !!! I'll post one of my tracks and let yall here how it came out

TicToc wrote:*yawn*

LOL