Advantages of 2500 over 4k

I have both.
They are totally different machines.
One is not better than the other.
I find the MPC2500 more like a traditional MPC.
It has the feel and sound of the 2000 and 3000.
The 4000 has a keymap sampler and is more of an S6000 or Z8 sampler.
The 4000 screen is bigger but has a lot of stuff on it that makes it harder to navigate quickly. I can work a lot faster on the MPC2500. The cleaner sound and higher resolution sequencer makes it not sound as much like an "MPC" to me. The 2500 is better for making beats on. The 4000 is better when you want to play a full piano sample.

Different tools for different jobs.
Get both

Lumpy wrote:
I find the MPC2500 more like a traditional MPC.
It has the feel and sound of the 2000 and 3000.

I agree on the feel of the 2500 being similar to the 2000/3000. But the sound is no way near the same as the 2000/3000.

The 2500 is like the 1000 in terms of sound. Its a sweet crispy sound, but a little scooped in the mids.

Lumpy wrote:
The 2500 is better for making beats on. The 4000 is better when you want to play a full piano sample.

Different tools for different jobs.
Get both

I have to disagree. You only need one of those MPCs. Which ever you choose depends on what you need. If you decide on a 2500, add a Fantom/Fantom XR instead of a 4000. If you have a 4000, pick up a software program such as Recyle, Sound Forge, Wavelab..or something similar.

jahrome wrote:

Lumpy wrote:
The 2500 is better for making beats on. The 4000 is better when you want to play a full piano sample.

Different tools for different jobs.
Get both

I have to disagree. You only need one of those MPCs. Which ever you choose depends on what you need. If you decide on a 2500, add a Fantom/Fantom XR instead of a 4000. If you have a 4000, pick up a software program such as Recyle, Sound Forge, Wavelab..or something similar.

um why by all that sht when you can by the 4k?? or...an MV

already have a fantom & recycle...

AWW_NAWW wrote:
um why by all that sht when you can by the 4k?? or...an MV

All what sht? The MPC is a MIDI sequencer. So buy MIDI sound modules. A brand new MPC 2500 and Fantom XR is about the same price as a 4000. But of course you can buy a 4K or MV. Options you have....there is no one solution.

None of that matters to all but the individual is the bottom line. If you like it for whatever reason then use it. All instruments wether midi or otherwise have different feel. If you dig it use it, that only means its a greater possibility to get the best out of you. Who's to say what a individual needs only you can answer that for yourself.

All these peices are great for one thing or another if not all.
Make that music on what ever just make it dope.

Thanks for all of the responses. It has really helped me make my descision. Im picking up a 2500 this week!

jahrome wrote:there is no one solution.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm very curious if someone who owns both 4k and the 2500 can comment on the quality of timestretching on the top of the line model. I found the results from stretching audio on the 2500 not really up to par with what I'm used to get when I stretch audio inside Wavelab etc., but since I like having everything inside one box I would even consider to upgrade if the timestretched samples would sound closer to the results you can get when using a CPU.

S.

Wavelab, Sound Forge, etc. all do a better job at stretching audio than any MPC.

I think he wants you to compare the qualityof the MPC's (2500 & 4000) time stretch.

I know..but since he mentioned Wavelab, I just wanted point out that timestretching on Wavelab as well as other software available is far superior to any MPC.

As far as the MPC 4000 and 2500...I don't know. I wonder if there is anyone that own both units....

Sonny Chiba wrote:I'm very curious if someone who owns both 4k and the 2500 can comment on the quality of timestretching on the top of the line model.

I doubt they put different algorithms in any of their machines. If they did, it would be advertised

Only possible difference might be the time it takes for a processing. Apart from that, co-sign what jahrome said.

_Stilo_ wrote:

Sonny Chiba wrote:I'm very curious if someone who owns both 4k and the 2500 can comment on the quality of timestretching on the top of the line model.

I doubt they put different algorithms in any of their machines. If they did, it would be advertised

Only possible difference might be the time it takes for a processing. Apart from that, co-sign what jahrome said.

Yeah, I agree it would make sense for Akai to use the same algorythm for all of the MPCs. The quality is still questionable, and I wouldn't mind waiting for a couple of minutes for the timestretching to be performed if I could use the MPEX algorythm for example.

Plus I think I found a bug on the 2500: When you try to timestretch small audio files, the MPC adds a bit of silence right before the end of the sample. I'll try to reproduce this bug and post some audiofiles.

S.