Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By average Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:18 am
For a long time I've been thinking about making a DVD that would actually be useful to cats. I've bought my fair share of videos and they all pretty much suck. I can do everything you can possibly think of in my studio from pre to post production: Live instruments, Protools HD, MPC's, everthing.
So reply with some things y'all would like to see in the video and maybe I can contribute something useful for folks to look at.

By elmacaco Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:23 am
can I say titties and fat bootys? :lol:

I think it is hard to do a video that would actually be useful, since the nice rewarding bits are very context specific and you need a basic understanding of what is happening in the song and where you want to go to really get to the nitty gritty, and I don't think that is communicable through video. Otherwise it is just a 'highlights' rehashing of the manual.

But who knows, go for it. I think it would be much better for the 4000 since it is so complex, but for the 2000 probably the coolest stuff hidden in 'Open window' uses of swing, etc. I think just browsing through the pages of questions on the 2000 forum would give you an idea of what comes up most often.

Good Luck.
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By Iceberg-Slim Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:34 pm
A whole session from pre preproduction to the final stereo mix

Go thru how you picked, layered, fx, the sounds, and put them all togethor to get the track (every little bit even when you decided something sucked and changed it)

Every track you put togethor, show what the grids look like, how to add ghost notes, getting that drum track perfect from just a basic kick snare hi hat, any chord progression, chords break em down for the theorist ppl out there, why you added and subtracted certain sounds, then show us when you bounced it to the mixing stage on the pc (unless you mix on the mpc)
(maybe some harder sampling like getting those tracks that are hard to loop less you chop it up, chopping up a record showing us how you progressed the initial chops of the song(play the song for us))

when ya get to the mixing stage show us why you eqed that, how ya utilized the compressor, where you added that reverb the settings, the automation you used to give it that built up, maybe a sudden rerecord idea hit you and you added that in to finish off the track

That was always my dream kinda tape, I'd pay good money just to see it regardless if iI knew it. something similar to that pulled off, I think the problem is the noobs are looking for basically how to put a beat togethor from dirt scratch, and just getting inside of someone elses head and why they do the stuff instead of this is what this does and this does (every tape i've watch) would be a great tape although it may be really long and maybe somewhat of a hassle this is the direct training you would get say you were in a studio without it being hands on

Would be a great tape, if your serious about putting it togethor, I have a insane amount of ideas, and can make sure it all moves smoothly :)

By superflysnuka Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:07 am
the previous dude summed it up.

goodshit.

By Toecutter Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:30 am
Although it may be long, you can break the DVD down into menus, CHAPTER ONE, SAMPLING. CHAPTER TWO, SEQUENCING. CHAPTER THREE, ADVANCED SEQUENCING WITH SYNTHS, ETC. this way cats can go directly to the parts they need help in, and also discuss the ingredients for a proper mixdown, something alot of cats need help with...

By cashstill Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:00 am
I haven't seen a good video explaining how to actually construct a Song from start to finish on the MP

(they show the various MP features but not the process of using Song Mode)

A walk through creating 1 Hip Hop track and 1 R&B track
from Intro, Verse, Chorus, Bridge, Outro

And when I am saying a R&B track, I mean a "real" R&B track
something cutting edge like a Neo Soul track like Jill Scott or Erica Badu would use

Not a Hip Hop track (think Lil Jon / Usher) turned R&B only due to the vocals added

Song Construction has always been a popular question on this site and similar music sites

Hopefully, Tutor has a section on this in his E-Book :lol:

By average Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:22 pm
Cool! Everybody keep posting. I'm putting 2gether a trial one now for one of my boys just to see what I come up with. the more ideas the better.
The DVD defintely is going to be an all around the studio type thing. Not just for the 4000. So it will show everything from making beats from scratch, to tracking them out to mixing. I'll even get into stuff like tracking live music if anyone's interested. Most of this stuff will pretty much be just the way I do it. Less SUPER technical, and more real world experience type sh#t. This is what I do everyday for a living, so I'll defintely make it as useful as possible.
Please keep posting ideas.
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By Iceberg-Slim Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:30 am
I got ideas for days, but you can span it out over a few dvds just show one dvd geared towards the creation of a whole song composing wise with a workstation or so

Then you can do your next dvd on sampling each from scratch to final mix down, have a little side note or page inside the dvd that could list the settings and the plugs/hardware fx used, and hell you could even give them the original sounds and let it be interactive :)
By yukmouth204 Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:21 pm
average wrote:For a long time I've been thinking about making a DVD that would actually be useful to cats. I've bought my fair share of videos and they all pretty much suck. I can do everything you can possibly think of in my studio from pre to post production: Live instruments, Protools HD, MPC's, everthing.
So reply with some things y'all would like to see in the video and maybe I can contribute something useful for folks to look at.


Thats a great idea, it would help new producers out a lot.
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By dj e.d.e Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:55 am
i think song structure and using the mpc in live performance how to mix tha
programs in a contineous mix,using the compressor also,
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By MattMatiks PG Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:53 pm
Definitely all of what Iceberg-Slim said would be the best... I know because I myself am just learning the MPC and A video with all that would be really helpful...

The biggest thing I could think of to show is definitely makin tight drum tracks... Cause A lot of times people just think if you got some good drum sounds (especially sampled ones) that your drums are gonna sound tight... They don't realize all the EQ and Compression and FX that go into makin that drum track smooth as shit... I got trouble with this shit myself.

Make sure you drop us a hit when or if you make this thing... You know it'll sell to everybody on here real well.
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By Ron Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:53 pm
I say go for it.
Don't forget to add about smpte syncing. I could benifit from a refresher on that. Just keeping it real.
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By captkickass Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:30 pm
i think to make the newbs happy, show the simplest way to make a song, include the samples and loops, and just layer. then making somthing from scratch(basically what everybody else said)

Bycarhartt Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:30 am
captkickass wrote:i think to make the newbs happy, show the simplest way to make a song, include the samples and loops, and just layer. then making somthing from scratch(basically what everybody else said)


definatley a good idea

sometimes all seems a bit daunting for newbies like myself