MPC, keybord, MIDI conections.

Abu,

The timing correct feature on the MPC does not work on incoming analog signals (sounds). It will only work with MIDI and DRUM start times that it stores in its internal sequencer. So if you really want to play a bassline on the keyboard, use the timing correct feature of the MPC, and record a single bassline on to the MPC that you can play back using a single pad, you must record your MIDI performance data from the keyboard onto the MPC - then use the MPC to playback the sounds on the keyboard, and at the same time use the MPC to record the actual sounds. Complicated, but possible!

1) connect the midi out of the keyboard to the midi in of the MPC. Also connect the midi out of the MPC to the MIDI in of the keyboard.

2) Set up the MPC to receive MIDI data from the keyboard, set up a track with type MIDI and select the appropriate MIDI channel.

3) Start recording on the MPC using the rec/play buttons, and then play your bassline on the computer. When you're done, hit the play button on the MPC. If you have the channel of the track set up correctly, it should begin playing back your performance using the sequencing from the MPC and the sounds from your keyboard.

4) Connect the analog out of the keyboard to the record in of the MPC, choose MODE:Record on the MPC, and record the actual sounds being played back by the keyboard. Trim the beginning and ends, assign the sample to a pad, and there you go.

1) connect the midi out of the keyboard to the midi in of the MPC. Also connect the midi out of the MPC to the MIDI in of the keyboard.

Ok, that allready done. SO, as I said, I can play the sounds in my MPC with the keyboard (but that not what i want to do)

2) Set up the MPC to receive MIDI data from the keyboard, set up a track with type MIDI and select the appropriate MIDI channel.

"appropriate MIDI channel. " Hmmm?
At "TYPE" i choose MIDI, "PGM: Off" and "MIDI: Off" Is this right??

3) Start recording on the MPC using the rec/play buttons, and then play your bassline on the computer. When you're done, hit the play button on the MPC. If you have the channel of the track set up correctly, it should begin playing back your performance using the sequencing from the MPC and the sounds from your keyboard.

I've tried, but its no sound recorded!! WHY?!

4) Connect the analog out of the keyboard to the record in of the MPC, choose MODE:Record on the MPC, and record the actual sounds being played back by the keyboard. Trim the beginning and ends, assign the sample to a pad, and there you go.

This I understand, its the same way as when i sample 12" etc.. But I really want to understadn that MIDI stuff!

Abu

2) Set up the MPC to receive MIDI data from the keyboard, set up a track with type MIDI and select the appropriate MIDI channel.

"appropriate MIDI channel. " Hmmm?
At "TYPE" i choose MIDI, "PGM: Off" and "MIDI: Off" Is this right??

- Not quite. "Type:MIDI" is right. You need to select a program though - the default program 'Program01' should work. If you choose MODE:Program, then the notes tab, it will show you what pads are associated with what notes. These notes will be recognized by the keyboard. Notice that the default setup has the notes all out of order. I have made a blank program called MIDI-IN-ORDER that puts all the midi notes in order. Also, "MIDI" should be set to '1A-16A' (or B, depending one what you have the cable plugged into in the back of the MPC and depending on the recieve channel you have your keyboard set to). Here is the link to the manual for the PSR-540; it will tell you how to set up the send/receive channels on it:

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Documen ... psr540.pdf

Also, check MODE:MIDI/Sync. Make sure the MPC is setup to receive on ALL channels on the MIDI tab and that the Sync In on the SYNC tab is set to 1 or 2 (depending on what you have the MIDI in plugged into) and Sync Out is set to A or B (depending on what you have the MIDI out plugged into).

3) Start recording on the MPC using the rec/play buttons, and then play your bassline on the computer. When you're done, hit the play button on the MPC. If you have the channel of the track set up correctly, it should begin playing back your performance using the sequencing from the MPC and the sounds from your keyboard.

I've tried, but its no sound recorded!! WHY?!

- Pressing the rec/play button will NOT record sound - only the MIDI information! MIDI information is not sound. At its most basic, MIDI is just the data that specifies when to start/stop a sound.

To check to see if the MPC recorded the performance from your keyboard, choose MODE:Step Edit - there should be MIDI events recorded there. If there aren't, then your MIDI into the MPC isn't working.

When you press play, the MPC will play these MIDI events back, and if you have everything configured correctly, will trigger the actual sounds to play from the keyboard. If the events are there but the sounds are coming out of the keyboard, then your MIDI out of the MPC isn't working.

Read the both the MPC and the PSR-540 manuals very carefully - everything you need to know is in there - I know because I taught myself this stuff using only the manuals from my MPC and my Yamaha A4000 (if that manual was any indication, Yamaha has awesome manuals). Be patient and methodical, and you'll be happy with the results. Good luck!

Thanks man!! I'm there!!

Now I can record the sounds, and when I press "play" on the MPC, it plays the sounds through the speakers on the keyboard!!:)

So, what do i have to do, to keep them on the MPC, and play them out the output at out my stereo speaker?!! Do i have to record it analog? Is that the only sollution, or?!

Thanks man, im happy know. And soon everything is allright!:)

Abu

dude, that's great you got it working so fast!

Now I can record the sounds, and when I press "play" on the MPC, it plays the sounds through the speakers on the keyboard!!

I think you got it, but just to make sure, remember: when you use the rec/play or overdub functions, you aren't recording the sounds to the MPC- you're only recording events.

So, what do i have to do, to keep them on the MPC, and play them out the output at out my stereo speaker?!! Do i have to record it analog? Is that the only sollution, or?!

Still not sure what your asking - your choices are either to have the events on the MPC trigger the sounds from the keyboard which sends them to your stereo speakers

-or-

record the output of the keyboard as analog sound into the MPC and then connect that to your speakers.

I see.

The reason why I'm asking is: I play the drum out from my MPC and into my stereo. At the same time the keyboardnotes plays out the keyboard speakers.
So, to have them at my MPC as samples after I have played them, I have to record it into my MPC analog at the same time as it play. (I know i can do that)

I want that, because, i need to have the tones on my mpc when i turn the keyboard of. I like to make the finish at my MPC ONLY.

One thing is stupid. I only have "HEADPHONES out" on the keyboard! Sp I need at jack to phono cable, AND I HAVE TO WAIT TO MONDAY!!! ;(


Are you getting what I'm saying. (I not good at english)

Abu

I understand completely!

good luck

While you're here. Can you explain what midi clock is?

Unfortunately I'm not the best person to answer this question - I know there's MIDI Clock and MIDI Time Code and that they're both MIDI protocols. I THINK that MIDI Time Code is newer and more robust - it actually syncs the timing of events between machines, whereas MIDI Clock just sends the relative time between events.

Someone please correct me in detail here if I'm wrong...

Yes:) Please learn me more about that.

IM SO HAPPY, hehe..

I'm allready good at my beats, but with a keyboard I can make them more punchy and make be more "warm", and finish them!!

I not sure if I do the right thing buying this Yamah PSR-540, its just a keyboard - I get it for 130$, but should I instead save some more and buy a bether synth? Hm....

Abu

MIDI clock is very much like a metronome "click"...but over MIDI it sends 24 "ticks" for each quarter note.

MIDI Time Code is very different. It uses MIDI Clock, but it also sends song position information, such as what measure you are currently located at. Using this, you can fast foward one sequencer (ie-your pc) and the other sequencer would follow to the same place. MIDI clock alone doesn't do this. You don't know where you are in the song based on ticks, unless you start both sequencers from the same place every time (such as the beginning). This is VERY useful for editing, and also for setting loops on one sequencer without hacking ALL your sequencers.

It's a mute point if you only have 1 sequencer.

Well. With my english and MPC knowledge I did'nt understand much.

Thanks anyway:)

Abu

what your trying to do can't be done on the 1k. 1k doesn't allow you to monitor the audio output of the keyboard through mpc track that your midi data would be recorded to.MPC is not A true external midi sequencer in that sense ala Sonar,Cubase.

Can It be done on the 2000XL?

Abu

DJWeed wrote:what your trying to do can't be done on the 1k. 1k doesn't allow you to monitor the audio output of the keyboard through mpc track that your midi data would be recorded to.MPC is not A true external midi sequencer in that sense ala Sonar,Cubase.

DJWeed,

Let me know if I'm misunderstanding you, but I while I agree the keyboard sounds won't be stored and played from the MIDI track on the MPC, the 1k can still do what Abu asked:
Use the keyboard to play a bassline, time correct the notes, and save the result on the MPC.

Although you can't hear the audio input from the keyboard immediately on the MPC, you can connect the output of the keyboard to the record ins of the 1k. Then press play on the MPC, enter record mode and monitor the incoming signal from the keyboard (which the MPC midi track is triggering). Record it, assign it to a pad, and playback in an actual track.

I know this works because I've tested it myself w/ my 1k.