Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:02 am
to me it sounds great only using headphones. The output of the headphone jack is really good. Now is there any way to connect the headphone out to the mixer and hear it that way?? is there a certain jack to use for that??
thanks in advance.
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By Upright Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:13 am
Yeah there is try your local Radio Shack..but...I don't understand...why not just use the stereo outs?? The headphone jack shouldn't sound better than the stereo outs.Right??

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:17 am
thanks yeah i know what u mean, but it just seems like the headphone out is much louder . The main outs to my mixer need serious gain on the mixer for it to sound loud .
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By Upright Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:27 am
Well if you do end up going thru the headphone jack to your mixer, I would be very curious as to know which one sounds better.I have a feeling it's going to sound the same, I could be wrong though so keep me posted.

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:32 am
it is more that i thin the headphone out would sound louder without me having to crank up the gain on my mixer. See when before i had the mpc i used software and from my pc soundcard to my mixer the signal is much louder than the mpc 500 coming out the main outs with the same settings on my mixer. The mpc500 is at 0db and my pc soundcard is at 0db. And testing them side by side, the soundcard i use has a louder signal and seems to have more headroom. The mpc500 outs seem to distort easily as well.
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By Upright Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:42 am
Wow that is weird. Like I said before I don't use the Mpc 500 in the studio,but I'll compare it with the Mpc 2500 and see if there is a difference in the outputs of the two Mpc's...hopefully there won't be.

I can't do it tonight ......eyelids very heavy must get sleep ....

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:45 am
that would be great if you could check that out for me. i am curious about that. At first i thought maybe mine was faulty but i think others have complained about the low output. Just set up the 2500 with the same settings as the 500 . Send them both to there own channels on a mixer with the exact same settings and see if you notice a difference. Thanks
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By SimonInAustralia Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:04 am
sampie wrote:it is more that i thin the headphone out would sound louder without me having to crank up the gain on my mixer. See when before i had the mpc i used software and from my pc soundcard to my mixer the signal is much louder than the mpc 500 coming out the main outs with the same settings on my mixer. The mpc500 is at 0db and my pc soundcard is at 0db. And testing them side by side, the soundcard i use has a louder signal and seems to have more headroom. The mpc500 outs seem to distort easily as well.
Why are you scared of 'crankin' the gain on your mixer?

That's what the gain control on your mixer is for, to set the appropriate levels of different signals so that they have appropriate gain.

It doesn't matter that some equipment is louder than others, that's how it is, just set the gain on your mixer so you are getting a decent level.

How are you determining that the PC soundcard has more headroom than the MPC500? This is to do with gain structure inside each device, it's nothing to do with the mixer.

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:09 am
i'm jus saying that when i increase the gain on my mixer, the mpc500 distorts easily when i want to get a loud enough signal out of it - a signal that compares in volume to my soundcard.
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By SimonInAustralia Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:20 am
sampie wrote:i'm jus saying that when i increase the gain on my mixer, the mpc500 distorts easily when i want to get a loud enough signal out of it - a signal that compares in volume to my soundcard.
So, the signal coming out of the MPC500 is distorting in the mixer, when you try to give that signal enough gain on the mixer to sound as loud as your PC soundcard.

That sounds strange, seems to be more like an issue with your mixer or the mixer settings, rather than the MPC500.

Your mixer should be able to play the MPC500 signal just as loud as the PC Soundcard signal, without distorting the MPC500 signal (assuming the PC Soundcard signal is not distorting at that level as well), just by adjusting the gain levels.

Are you sure that the channels on the mixer are set the same? Have you got the EQ flat on both channels on the mixer? Have you got a pad turned on for one of the channels on the mixer?

Do you have a prefader level function on your mixer, so that you can set the gain for each channel while watching the level on the meters to ensure each channel isn't peaking into the red, and to see if each channel is getting a similar signal level?

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:27 am
thanks I am certain that the mixer settings are flat. Just as long as everyone elses 500 is similar in volume then its all good. So if Upright can check that for me i would appreciate it. I just dont wanna go returning it thinking something is wrong when they are all like that. I do have a feeling that the 500 main outs are just like this by default.
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By DrFunk7777 Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:05 pm
did you adjust the MAIN OUTPUT volume on the 500?
You might need to crank it up a bit.
If you don't, the headphone volume would definitely be louder than your Stereo Outputs.

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:33 pm
everything on the 500 is at full level. When using the headphones i dont have to put the main volume at full level because the signal is mad loud. Nice and loud out the headphones.
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By SimonInAustralia Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:48 pm
That sounds right.

You are expecting that the signal going into your mixer should also be loud...but what is loud in terms of a line level audio signal?

Audio gear all has different levels coming out of it, that's why there is a gain control on your mixer inputs.

If plugging into your mixer, crank the MPC volume right up, and adjust the gain in your mixer so it is loud enough for you.

No point stressing over something that doesn't matter at all.

By sampie Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:54 pm
Simon i feel what u sayin dawgz, but when i adjust my mixer to get it loud enough as say my pc's soundcard the mpc's signal is already in the yellow zone on my mixer. Where the soundcard signal sounds loud and is not even near the yellow zone.