MV-8800 dropped

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By J.Daniels Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:35 am
it just seems like theyre turning it into a computer. which begs the question, why anyone would buy this instead of a computer/laptop?
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By dasinsation Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:45 am
Yeah im diggin' the MV, I have been biased a long time just because I had a MPC but AKAI better do something because Roland is coming hard. Overthrowing a king is never easy! :wink:
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By krang Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:51 am
J.Daniels wrote:it just seems like theyre turning it into a computer. which begs the question, why anyone would buy this instead of a computer/laptop?

By shrednar Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:42 am
The new MV should be out by 02-05-07. I know Roland is planning a lot of OS updates for the new MV. If Akai doesnt step it up with the 2500, 1000, 4000 I may just have to pick one up.
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By sensei Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:16 am
88.2 K with 16/32 channels over firewire or express card would be awesome

By aliengroover Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:53 am
renegadebliss wrote:
konc3pt wrote:for some strange reason I always thought mv was capable of 24 bit audio, maybe cus it was always compared to 4k...but damn


It is :)

See what they do.

This is what the samples are at:
Audio Data Format 16-bit linear

Sampling Frequency 44.1 kHz (fixed)

and

this is what the Audio is at:
Signal Processing AD Conversion: 24 bits, 64 times oversampling / DA Conversion: 24 bits, 128 times oversampling

So the output is 24bit/44.1khz, but playing 16bit/44.1khz samples...


:)

Dave


Umm...nah. Just 'cause the converters are 24-bit does not mean that the machine operates at 24bit. It's 16-bit no matter how you slice or dice it.
Peace

By moyphee Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:28 pm
The sampling engine is what operates at 16/44.1. The MV processes it's audio exactly as Dave stated.

By soulscientist Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:31 pm
anyone would buy this instead of a computer/laptop?


I would do it, since a computer is not dedicated hardware and isnt designed for you to record music with. Of course you can get soundcards and controllers but i dont want to have to fix drivers, keep it in sync and read through tons of manuals just to record my music.
So therefore a solution like this, where i can do almost everything with one unit designed for it would be awesome. I would really like to do my instrument recording on my mpc too but its more designed for sample editing only.

By aliengroover Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:38 pm
moyphee wrote:The sampling engine is what operates at 16/44.1. The MV processes it's audio exactly as Dave stated.


I didn't say it didn't, but it is what it is. Roland has employed a similar setup for a LONG time. My old S330 had 16-bit converters, but nobody ever threw around the idea that it was anything other than a 12-bit sampler. Lots of other samplers also operated the same. Basically, it's like saying my HK CD player is capable of 24-bit audio because my converters are 24-bit. Ya know? So, no biggie, I just wanted to make that clear for those who think it's a 24-bit sampler.
Peace

By moyphee Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:20 am
Fair enough. That makes sense.

Much Respect

By gorgorsan Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:47 am
djverseone wrote:Guys don't trip I was talking to the owner of Forat (Bruce) and he said Akai's coming out with a new MPC 4000 in SPRING of this year.

a new mpc4000?? What do you mean?

By renegadebliss Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:59 pm
gorgorsan wrote:
djverseone wrote:Guys don't trip I was talking to the owner of Forat (Bruce) and he said Akai's coming out with a new MPC 4000 in SPRING of this year.

a new mpc4000?? What do you mean?


On the MPC 4000 forum, we've been discussing this, and it is very possible (though purely speculation) that MPC 4000 is NOT available in Europe at the moment, the same as the MV 8000. The MV 8000 is NOT available because it is not ROHS compliant (uses lead solder and such), so Roland HAD to release the MV 8800 so that they can sell in Europe as well.

As the MPC 4000 is NOT available in EU, it is very possible this is due to the ROHS legislation that went into effect there. So Akai is going to have redo some of the internals of the 4000 to be able to continue to sell it.

Again this is purely speculation. For all I know Akai was ahead of the game and already wasn't using lead solder, but I doubt it....


Dave
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By el-ectro Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:29 pm
I dont understand what you need 24 minutes of sampling time to. I manage to use my 13 secs good.


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By SonicLabsAudio Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:50 pm
the v-fire turns rolands rbus into 16 chans of firewire alot of people use it on the mv 8000 and im sure it will sell alot on this unit as well. Have 8 analoug outs plus 16 over firewire.
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