Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By binger0 Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:52 pm
Most times I make phat drum track. Scratch a record and find a fat rare ass groove (one that I havent heard), Loop that then and other loops or little phrases on top. Or lace a little synth lines on it. I like on shots though, old funk records got those nice one shot horns and funky guitar riffs and key licks.
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By Blue Haze Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:25 am
Torah, Koran, Sutra, Bible, Proverb, Teaching different paradigms from all over the world with poeple as part of their culture. I`m from America, my culture is predominated by my surroundings, the music, the manners, is a part of all that. Music from many parts of the world is used in some kind of way with the spirit it always has been. Some call it a natural high, spiritual high, or just the groove. Be it tribal or traditional. For me personal I see no problem understanding the influences God has on music. Point in example, Marvin Gaye most would recognize had a great influence on R&B credits God. Aretha Franklin who is heavily sampled in today`s music also credits God in her music. DMX, Chingy, and others my point is for each of these artists whether you check it or not always speak, teach, and live with some way God in their music. That I believe is where their talent, power, and motivation comes from. Grandmom talking to ya, your own heart calling to ya, life`s ups and down, and how do one one keep trying in one`s daily struggle.

This can`t be life, this can`t be love, Jay-Z

I would never excluded you for what you believe, your cool with me, just do you feel that the spirit moves you in your music making like these others.

I sample and this are some of my sources many a time reading the labals and the inserts on records and cds I come across this from the musicians history, thier music legacy. Hip Hop`s ancestors :idea:

Blue Haze

peace

I get up to get down
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By DSTRUCT Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:33 am
How the hell can a post called, "making loops" turn into a conversation about god and religion. Im not diggin this. Im looking for production techniques over here not this sh!t
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By Blue Haze Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:31 am
Simple answer. how do the greats use the spirit when they make music. It can be part of the production process. When you use the spirit in the music production process it can touch people they can feel it. Some call it groove, vibe, rhythm whatever. It can be the part that they feel. When Tupac rapped over his beats that fit the spirit, tone, or mood of the song. You feel it. The power comes from the spirit, heart or whatever you call it. If the spirit you put into something isn`t there people can`t feel you as much. Check your CDs, records, uncles, aunts, grandmoms whatever to see what I`m talking about how did the greats become great at their production.

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis The earth has music for those who listen.

Love is a spirit. If you want to use great loops with power to move people look for some that have great power. Alot were made by musicians who credit God as their inspiration. Another is most of the successful musicians talk about this in their creative process in their production.


I`m not telling you to run to church next Sunday but be aware of how to use spirit in your production.

Peace.

Blue Haze


I get up to get down
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By DSTRUCT Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:53 pm
Blue Haze wrote:Simple answer. how do the greats use the spirit when they make music. It can be part of the production process. When you use the spirit in the music production process it can touch people they can feel it. Some call it groove, vibe, rhythm whatever. It can be the part that they feel. When Tupac rapped over his beats that fit the spirit, tone, or mood of the song. You feel it. The power comes from the spirit, heart or whatever you call it. If the spirit you put into something isn`t there people can`t feel you as much. Check your CDs, records, uncles, aunts, grandmoms whatever to see what I`m talking about how did the greats become great at their production.

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis The earth has music for those who listen.

Love is a spirit. If you want to use great loops with power to move people look for some that have great power. Alot were made by musicians who credit God as their inspiration. Another is most of the successful musicians talk about this in their creative process in their production.


I`m not telling you to run to church next Sunday but be aware of how to use spirit in your production.

Peace.

Blue Haze


I get up to get down


I feel you! But just me personally, I dont want to know how to use spirit in my production. The direction Im heading in, I use science, and math in my production, and my lyrics. Thats the path my music is going in at this time, and Im pleased with the results. When you mention using spirit in production, and how it can touch people and they can feel it, thats just not what my stuffs about. Im about leaping outta the box. Im about pushing the envelope, and bringing something different to the table. I dont want my music to touch people in a spiritual way. I want it to touch them in a new way theyve never been touched.
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By Blue Haze Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:12 am
To dstruction i say Keep banging out the joints and I wish you much success in your endeavours. Change the game and let your muse move the people. Shakalocka my man.

Peace

Blue Haze



:D


Last Note check out an oldie "Regrets" by Jay-Z off the Reasonable Doubt LP listen to it all the way through I think you will like too.

By Toecutter Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:29 am
Smoove, to answer your question, if you looking to sample a bassline look for a record with a fat bassline in it, if it's got other instruments in it you filter them out, if you are looking for a guitar riff you listen to records with fat guitars and chop away, you need to really listen to alot of wax before you really find out what you're looking for... if you need more help PM me Smoove...
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By Iceberg-Slim Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:36 am
How do you memorize all the shit toecutter, I've started writing on my vinyl cases for any samples that stood out

anyone got any tips on that?
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By Twelvizm Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:18 am
Colored tabs lined up on the vinyl (cue marks for turntablists). Just stop the record where you want it to play, slide a sticker up to the side of the needle carefully. Lightly press it on, make a test run to see if it is placed correctly (if not then try again). If it is in place then push the sticker down firmly. Place sticker at a 20 degree angle to the direction of record travel.

This will cause the needle to slide across the front of the sticker riight into your groove containing the sample you were working with.

I also mark the record sleeve with a sticker dot to make it stand out, as well as one on the outer edge of the sleeve so I can see it in a stack.
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By dubmunkey Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:00 pm
i agree dstruction, wtf?!?!?!?

greg

By gordongecko23 Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:32 pm
loops and sampling is not a religon based topic in the least bit. get off that s**t. this ain't church. this is a section on producing, and no spirit is helping me figure out how to get loops right.
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By Blue Haze Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:27 pm
Ok I see that i have to make it plain so there is no misunderstanding. Please whatever you choose to loop, don`t let it be no corny, dead loops. Whatever you choose has to have that fire, power, and sizzle from the original artists. Many of the cool, nice, and pioneering artists of yesteryear were on some change the people, touching their inner self, change the world type stuff that they want to express through thier music. Since they weren`t mainstream alot of their music involved tremendous creativity to catch their listeners. People partying out and adapting the bands philosophy were the rage at that time like some now because they feel the music put them in touch with some energy or missing part of their lives. I alot of us were born out of that energy and music of that time too. So all I want to say now is if a up and coming producer is deciding which sampling sources to use in his production for loops don`t just check out the year the recording was made, check out groove, mojo, funk, theme, like my great uncle said.

P.S. I break down my week into source sampling days and beatmaking days focusing on listening and sampling as many samples as I can every other day. Or I may make a drum pattern and using the record in page in the MPC listen to a record at the same bpm to see what may fit over my drums. Then sample out my riffs to use.

Blue Haze

:D

By Toecutter Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:35 am
Memorize? Hell no man, I'm way too stupid for that. Write the notes on yellow "post it's" that stick on the covers. Also I write on the labels of the records themselves, I'm probably never gonna sell them anyways... imagine I got records worth 60 dollars and I'm writing on them! If I die and someone wanted to sell my record collection, with what I done to them there probably won't be enough money in it for my burial with all the sharpee permanent ink marks that say "TRACK 2 BASSLINE" or "SIDE A TRACK ONE SNARE"
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By Science Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:14 am
what im tring to understand is...hoe to make something i sampled fit to a metronome? please help wit this