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By Swoop Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:20 pm
i jus bought a mv 8000 for $800 bucks

i got an mpc blue w/ jj os and now im thinking of selling it..

im torn between the two... i jus like how the mp is portable and mv can finish my projects all the way up to burning em.
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By parkerlewis Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:40 pm
I'm looking forward to hearing from peops with experience on both. I'm just about to pull the trigger on a MV8000 too. Seems like a good choice. All in one, good effects, cd burning, big screen, big nice pads. Do they have HDDs? I better go check online now!! :oops:

By sebastian Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:22 am
yes, it has a 40gb hd inside.
people from mvnation have also used 80 gb hds (or even more).

anyway it should be more than enough.
By Swoop Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:10 pm
im jus hopeing that people can shed more light (other than the obvious) on the differences between them.... i jus got it so im trying to figure out this bpm auto sync thing (i dont know if its like patch phrase or what) and a couple other bragged about features, ...i made a couple beats on it already and do like it but dont like its slow loading time... + im way faster on my mp....

i jus dont wanna get rid of my mp and regret it... what can it do that the mv cant??
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By 14k Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:02 pm
Swoop,
Let me give you the best advice that I can give anyone! Keep all of your gear....if possible! Gear is like $100 dollar bills....the more you get the better off you are. I hear so many people say that they regret getting rid of something that they once had! I understand that life deals some bad luck at times and you need quick cash to take care of something, but my gear would be my last resort.

So many folks play the "swap and buy" game too much. EXAMPLE: I have a vinyl record collection that's almost 10,000 albums strong. Everytime I wanted new records, I didn't sale the old one's to get new one's! I added to my library! I even see dudes buy gear brand new, then sell that same gear six months down the road for a fraction of what they paid, just to buy something else new! That's retarded! :roll:

I'd keep my MPC if I already owned it...then add to it like you have done! There's no such thing as one piece of gear that does it all...or an "All in one"...."stand-alone" unit! It will always lack in some feature you will need or want! By you having both a MV & MPC....you got the best of both worlds or the right tools for any job! :wink:

Having said all of that, Your workflow on the MV will speed up with time! I'm still learning shortcuts and I've had mine for over 2 years! At first, I couldn't chop up a quick sample and make a beat on the MV, like on the MPC! Now, it's the other way around! The MV is a beast too!

Long story short....keep em' both if possible! :wink:
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By parkerlewis Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:23 am
so what is the loading time issue with the MV? is it the initial start up of the machine? or loading samples from HDD or CD or what? I'll go check out this MV NAtion site, but if anyone knows please add your info here....

By Swoop Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:43 am
parkerlewis wrote:so what is the loading time issue with the MV? is it the initial start up of the machine? or loading samples from HDD or CD or what? I'll go check out this MV NAtion site, but if anyone knows please add your info here....


its slow, loading, saving, start up, etc but after its up, its up.... but still slow compared to the mp....plus i chop pretty fast on the mp... i jus have trouble learning to time stretching, i thought the mv would help me better since i keep hearing about its realtime time stretch feature but still havent been able to get it down.

so if anyone can help...

By Swoop Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:43 am
parkerlewis wrote:so what is the loading time issue with the MV? is it the initial start up of the machine? or loading samples from HDD or CD or what? I'll go check out this MV NAtion site, but if anyone knows please add your info here....


its slow, loading, saving, start up, etc but after its up, its up.... but still slow compared to the mp....plus i chop pretty fast on the mp... i jus have trouble learning to time stretching, i thought the mv would help me better since i keep hearing about its realtime time stretch feature but still havent been able to get it down.

so if anyone can help...
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By 14k Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:49 am
Truth be told...it takes about 2 or 3 minutes to load up from scratch! Maybe a little longer depending on how many sounds/samples need to be loaded. I know that seems like a lifetime, but like you said....once it's loaded it's loaded.

For me...I can do so much to kill those few minutes that I never notice! I can take a bathroom break, look through my record collection, grab a drink, and so on! Point is the MV's usually waiting on me by the time I'm done! That's how I budget my 3 minutes!

Here's the twist to the story.....I had the MPC 2000 classic, and it took longer to load up all those floppy disc, plus you had to keep feeding it all the disc and in the correct order they were saved....so you couldn't really do anything else! For the MPC's that had Zip or flash media drives, well that media transfers faster & it was faster because it was loading sound straight to the MPC's memory!

Keep in mind that the MV has to boot-up, then load sounds from the HD or when saving....it has to save to the HD. 3 to 5 minutes shouldn't kill anybody. I can't speak for the 4000 because I haven't used one in detail! :wink:
Swoop wrote:im jus hoping that people can shed more light (other than the obvious) on the differences between them....
Here's the one set pages that many many many people overlook! This shows the operating functions & features translated from all the MPC's to the MV. Mostly all the functions are the same, they just have different names! http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Dow ... 00WS09.pdf

Note: I'm not here to put down Akai or boost Roland! I'm just here to help fellow musicians, beat gods, and sound guru's the same way I've been helped! :wink:
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By parkerlewis Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:02 am
toilet breaks huh? ok, well I just bought a 8000 last night on japan yahoo auctions, so looks like I'm 'in'.
Really looking forward to learning this new machine. Seems like great value for money. I probably saved $400 on what I would have paid for a mpc2500 used on yahoo auctions, and that means I can go shopping for a keirin bicycle straight away! (thats another story) I will also be messing around with the synth engine A LOT until I decide whether to buy a microkorg or something like that.

I hear a lot of people griping about the swing of the MV, but it seems like they just aren't committed enough to learn the machine. The MP makes it so easy to just set on 1/16 62% and swing like it's 1994 all over again! But the MV just seems to have so much more options. If you're committed maybe it's the right machine for you...I"ll know in a week I reckon. :wink:
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By parkerlewis Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:18 pm
Got my MV8000 for 103000 YEN all up, shipped/bank fees etc...

It's stock with no vga card. It is 'like new' though, with mint box, manuals etc..

Haven't got it yet from the guy in Fukuoka, so maybe I got ripped off! :lol:
Hopefully today it arrives in the mail. Damn having to stay home all day waiting for the post man.

To put that in perspective MPC2500's go for 155000 on yahoo all the time, and 1000's go for about 80000-85000 YEN.
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By parkerlewis Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:12 am
OK!!!

I just got my MV from Yahoo Auctions (basically brand new). Scared the **** out of me when I first switched it on, and when I first saw the 500 page manual! (not to mention the manual is japanese).
Using the online pdf manual is cumbersome and slow.

Doesn't matter. I'm doing everything the mpc1000 does, after about 4 hours of use. It's very easy to use, just many more features, different terminology, and a pretty different workflow.

The quantize is very very good! I don't know how you guys can't figure it out. It's so simple. There is only 1 more parameter, which is strength, compared to the 1000/2500.
For classic mid 90's drum swing, just set it on 120 / shuffle / 62-68% rate and then set the strength to whatever gives you a good balance between human feel/robotic feel. I have it on about 80% for now, just starting out though.

Anyway, this **** rocks. And no I'm not biased, because I'm keeping my MPC1000 too. I love that little guy, but I'm scared of breaking the pads, and hate the flat screen. I also love the effects/bass keys/cd burning of the roland......main reasons I got it, and for the upright big screen, and depth of the operating system. Feels better to work on too, physically.

By Tohtruck Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:26 am
^^^ Nice. I just won an 8800 on eBay for $1300! I hope I didn't get screwed over by a con artist tho. Waiting anxiously for the arrival

I still have my 2500 and I'm still trying to sell it as we speak. But I'm starting to think about keeping it anyway. I still like it and will miss it if and when someone buys it off of me. I will miss the JJ OS updates but I like that the MV-8800 is so robust and has so much depth to its functions and features. It seems like something that I can really grow with and have alot of mileage with.

I would like to get a 1000 one day (long after I've sold my 2500) with the JJ OS of course. It seems like a nice lil compact beast that would make a perfect travelling companion as I hope to study abroad sometime next year. Plus the prices for these things are dropping like crazy.