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By verb Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:30 pm
what fam ? im rocking da mpc 2500 with the jj os i'm having a mad hard time with samples. I find a loop i like then get original bpm. chop the sample up, say the original bpm is 90 i chop the loop, spread it across the pads and i notice some chops are to short and the sample is shoter than the original bpm??? I'm not trying to rearrange the sample just trying to get this loop thing down first. what the F___ I'm doing wrong. any help hints is greatly ('') u know the rest!!! Peace
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By krang Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:03 pm
its the machine. Its not advanced enough. maby you should buy a more expensive mpc or wait for a better jj os. :lol:



or just rely on your ears. it sounds like someone told you the "proper" way to make beats- get your own steez.

By verb Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:33 pm
i use tap tempo to find the original bpm,plus i know the 2500 should be capable of this its the one of the latest release
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By krang Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:47 pm
its the machine. Its not advanced enough. maby you should buy a more expensive mpc or wait for a better jj os. :lol:



verb wrote:plus i know the 2500 should be capable of this its the one of the latest release



u know i was joking right?

By B-DOUBLE Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:02 pm
You should loop the sample first to get a perfect loop and that will tell you the real BPM. then when you chop the sample the chops should be close to perfect.

By _Stilo_ Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:05 pm
B-DOUBLE wrote:You should loop the sample first to get a perfect loop and that will tell you the real BPM. then when you chop the sample the chops should be close to perfect.

Right. Tap Tempo usually = no good.

By verb Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:35 pm
i do that ???

By verb Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:37 pm
verb wrote:i do that ???
just use tap that to put me in the ball park the loop till its perfect then chop but thats no my problem its
THE CHOPS :roll:
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By Cap_Ill Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:31 pm
yeah, loop it without chopping first.

that way you know for sure.

just play it from the begging at the first tick of the sequence and adjust the tempo until it loops properly

then either chop or don't chop
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By Smoove03 Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:35 pm
i have heard mixed stories about those auto chop things on the mpc. i say just do it by ear. go chop by chop, man. it may seem time consuming but you should get better results and also a good learning experience at the same time!!

you'll get sharper over time. the machine is just that...a machine. it aint gon be perfect everytime. get in the habit of usin them ears!

Bybizzzla Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:24 am
Smoove03 wrote:i have heard mixed stories about those auto chop things on the mpc. i say just do it by ear. go chop by chop, man. it may seem time consuming but you should get better results and also a good learning experience at the same time!!

you'll get sharper over time. the machine is just that...a machine. it aint gon be perfect everytime. get in the habit of usin them ears!
please son expand on that.. i read a lot of posts on here that always say CHOP by ear or chp by note.. but uh for us new skook cats, what that mean?

also ver its a way you can adjust the start and end points of each chopped slice that you make off the auto chop...

but yeah i used to chop piece by piece and it took a mad minute but i been readin bout this auto chop business finally got someone to d/l the jj os on a disk for me and i'm now learnin it that way...



be eaZy
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By c0mplex Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:20 am
_Stilo_ wrote:
verb wrote:I find a loop i like then get original bpm.

How do you know what the original BPM is?


Simple math..

BPM = Beats Per Min...

60 Seconds in 1 Min...

Play ur drums / track... count how many beats within 6 seconds..

Multiply by 10... and u have the bpm.
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By smokymcbucket Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:20 am
http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php

if you're not very good at maths (like me), this site really helps with working out original bpms and many other things, its a big help, but I still get the loop grooving on its own with my ears before i go here, cos like the man said ' it dont mean a thing if it aint got that swing...'

easy now

By bobsmitt Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:06 pm
smokymcbucket wrote:http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php

if you're not very good at maths (like me)

you cant count to 4 and multiply a number by 10?