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By djayhooker Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:37 pm
Simple question to those that have the MV. I'd ask on the mv forum but I'm waiting to be regitered. Pls no mpc vs mv stuff, I don't give a sh&t.

I just found out the MV8800 has the same effects section as the old roland sp808ex.
That product was crap for serious work but the effects section was so good it was worth the money alone. Beat the crap out of some rack mount units I have used too.

Here is that fx section so I can just check it's the same as MV.
01 Isolator & Filter
02 Centre Canceller
03 Stereo Dynamics Processor
04 Reverb & Gate
05 Tape Echo 201
06 Digital Delay
07 RSS Delay
08 Analogue Delay & Chorus
09 Digital Chorus
10 SDD320 Chorus
11 SBF325 Flanger
12 Boss Flanger x2
13 Stereo Pitch-Shifter
14 Rack Phaser x2
15 Stereo Auto-Wah
16 Stereo Distortion
17 Analogue Record Simulator
18 AM Radio Simulator
19 Lo-Fi Processor
20 Virtual Analogue Synth21 Guitar Multi *
22 Vocal Multi *
23 Voice Transformer *
24 Mic Simulator *
25 Vocoder *
* New to SP808EX


Anyways can you check for us as I can not find theffect list anywhere on line.

What I really want to know is this.

How does the automation of effects work in the sequencer ? can you automate all parameters and is it as good as some DAWs such as ableton.

I would also like to know how the midi is working out. If I wanted to hook up a HW synth, can I trigger it with midi and record the audio in the MV and will I be dealing with latency if I do this ? If I am , does it have lateny compensation like most DAWs ?

Thanks, sorry its not an mpc question, I used to have one but I really need that comprehensive fx section as I don't have room for racks.

By sebastian Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:05 pm
hope this helps:

Isolator & Filter
Center Canceler
St.Dynamics Processor
Reverb & Gate
Tape Echo 201
EZ Delay
Delay RSS
Analog Delay & Chorus
Digital Chorus
4 Button Chorus
Vintage Flanger
2 x BOSS Flanger
Stereo Pitch Shifter
80s Phaser
Stereo Auto Wah
Stereo Distortion
Phonograph
Radio Modeling
Lo-Fi Processor
Guitar Multi
Vocal Multi
Voice Transformer
Mic.Modeling
10 Band Vocoder
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By 14k Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:28 pm
All of the above EFX are on the MV, plus Roland added in a few more. There's several vocoders, record static, and the Bass Modeling within the EFX block also. I know there's a few more, but I can't think of the names right off!

You have 3 main efx processor blocks to insert your effects or stack them. The MV has the Multi-EFX, Delay/Chorus, and the Reverb which makes up the three separate blocks. You have the default presets on them and also a user section to save your tweaking and re-name if you choose!

The automation is done on the screen, but the actual faders or knobs do not move free-handed when the automation plays back!

The midi works fine for me, but many others feel the MV doesn't have enough outs, which is understood, but usually when I need more...I've moved my tracks to DAW anyway, so in my case...I can work around it. Other producers need more outs....so it's a judgement you'll have to make on your situation and workflow!
The MV has 1 midi-in, and 2 midi-out ports. The midi-outs support 16 channels each giving you a total of 32 channels. If you have the R-bus expansion card (MV8-0P1), you have additional capabilities.

Hope that helps you out! :wink:

By djayhooker Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:09 pm
Ok, thanks very much.

Sounds like it is the exact same processor as the sp808 had the bass modelling synth too as part of the effects. It was great for routing samples through as you got to use the lfo and chorus and flanger in the fx chain.
It did also have a small graphics 16 step seq old skool style ;)

Thanks again and can anybody clear up whether I would experience latency when routing audio from a synth recording into the MV if it was also being midi seq by the MV.

I guess it would, just like a PC with a DAW.

I just wondered if there was a compensation setting on it like you get in Ableton live or any other big DAW ?
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By 14k Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:47 pm
Latency= the delay until sound is audible.

I'm no Guru on the results with the MV and I have no scientific measuring equipment to back what I'm saying. So with that said, do more research or even go test drive the latency in a gear store if possible.

What I have found [under severe circumstances] is that the MV's latency is around 3ms with midi devices. When I say severe, I mean extra long midi cables and gear across the room while transmitting midi messages at 0000:00:045 frames past zero (or very beginning of the track). Again this is under severe circumstances. You can set pre-count measures on the MV (like most midi gear) to any length of bars and that usually fixes that problem. It's only when I set the pre-count to zero (or none) that I notice the 3ms delay.

As far as the visual latency while using the monior (VGA card) it's pretty much "dead on." You can expand or close the track scroll display. The more you expand it the faster it scrolls. At the fastest scroll setting...it seems kinda off, but it's moving so fast... who can tell what's going on!

Again, do more research!!
I'm in the middle of building a new studio and really haven't put the MV through every test that I will be using it for, so ask around!
Last edited by 14k on Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

By djayhooker Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:53 pm
Ok thanks, 3ms isn't going to bother me at all. I experience alot more than that in ableton live at the moment.
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By 14k Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:52 am
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By djayhooker Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:45 pm
djayhooker wrote:Ok thanks, 3ms isn't going to bother me at all. I experience alot more than that in ableton live at the moment.


lol, couldn't resist huh had to stir the sh&t , lol :wink:

I'm not sure his a hater, just a sh&t stirer