Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Cazillac Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:51 pm
I use both quantize and free hand with almost every beat I make, then I listen to what sounds better... its pretty easy. I adjust the swing anywhere from 50 to 65 depending on the beat and what I'm trying to create...


"So don't give me your swing, I got mines and thats the thing, blahzay, blahzay, blahzay..." - Camp Lo

its a good tip tho, thanks.

By wordsofwizdom Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:00 am
Beat God wrote:another way to achieve this is to turn the quantize off and play. The best swing is human feel which is what all swing features on drum machines are trying to emulate. For me the perfect swing setting is the one in my brain.

-BG


Word.

By wordsofwizdom Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:01 am
JazznFunkPack wrote:What you people need to do is disable quantize and stop making those horrible robotic boom bap beats you hear on the radio everyday. Even techno and house beats got more soul to them


word 2.

By wordsofwizdom Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:05 am
c0mplex wrote:
Lampdog wrote:No one has to be a perfect drummer, he never said that.

What he is saying is he prefers to let his brain run wild with the swing.
That "bounce" is machine generated/ drummer emulated. Use quantize off and use your own feeling with your own created swing. Some people don't have that swing in their brains and need the quantize to get the track moving how they want. To each his own but I sway toward BG's statement.


exactly, and if things are out then u can individually edit to taste...

Not only that but u dont have to and most peeps dont play the whole drums together, most will put down hi hats, kicks, snares etc individually on seperate sequencer tracks.. and not many people cant play each individuals in time, otherwise that gotta mean u got real bad rhythem, if u cant play them like that then never concider becomin a dj lol

Even makin beats is a bit alien for some one like that


I mean word.

Straight up do you think RJD2 used 'quantize' on "Chicken-Bone Circuit"?

or (this is complicated) but do you think Dj Shadow used it on "Endtroducing"? no. (maybe for the hit hats sometimes) but other than that, be a musican, not a computer. These machines are simply a medium for your craft, that is all.

By wordsofwizdom Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:12 am
Do what you like.

I prefer more technical breaks, with sometimes the smallest sounds... It's all about building, but i much rather do it live, so i practice rather than letting the machine do it for me.

it means when i turn on the mp, i can load a break and be able to play variations of it, naturally, you learn so much more if you have to pracitice it and innovate it to make it sound like a real drummer.

no disrespect to premier, but his breaks arent all that complicated at all.

if you look at someone like jel for instance. search him on youtube playing tracks live, with no sequencing, this stuff is raw as, you can tell how much he practiced, and he's not limited to the knowledge of the machine, he basically just uses the pads to accomodate the sounds he chops and bang he performs that.

theres more to life than computers

By JazznFunkPack Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:23 pm
wordsofwizdom wrote:
c0mplex wrote:
Lampdog wrote:No one has to be a perfect drummer, he never said that.

What he is saying is he prefers to let his brain run wild with the swing.
That "bounce" is machine generated/ drummer emulated. Use quantize off and use your own feeling with your own created swing. Some people don't have that swing in their brains and need the quantize to get the track moving how they want. To each his own but I sway toward BG's statement.


exactly, and if things are out then u can individually edit to taste...

Not only that but u dont have to and most peeps dont play the whole drums together, most will put down hi hats, kicks, snares etc individually on seperate sequencer tracks.. and not many people cant play each individuals in time, otherwise that gotta mean u got real bad rhythem, if u cant play them like that then never concider becomin a dj lol

Even makin beats is a bit alien for some one like that


I mean word.

Straight up do you think RJD2 used 'quantize' on "Chicken-Bone Circuit"?

or (this is complicated) but do you think Dj Shadow used it on "Endtroducing"? no. (maybe for the hit hats sometimes) but other than that, be a musican, not a computer. These machines are simply a medium for your craft, that is all.
yes actually endtroducing is very much quantized. organ donor, Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain...
And he uses loops a lot too

the people at anticon are a different story. I dont think dj shadow can play his mpc the way Jel does. the only thing i saw dj shadow do, is pressing a bassline and "pushing buttons".. not really "play" them
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By hikkimori Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:45 pm
Soo... is there an option to set different swing ("shuffle", whatever) values for each sound in Reason?

Answers:

1. Yes (..) (thank you)
2. No
3. RTFM (see 1 becouse I failed on that)
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By hikkimori Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:10 pm
Becouse it's looks like it's one global setting & I'm not sure anything happends when I'm mess with it... Guys? Any1?

Imagine I'm hot chick from my avatar & answer please :wink: