Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc

By JazznFunkPack Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:06 am
I think things like Final scratch are great as a studio and live tool for the scratcher. You make a beat on the mpc, track out the different parts and scratch them up again in no time. There is this Belgian software company called Adion and they make DjDecks. This program connects with a final scratch or ms pinky time code record (like serato) but it lets u use other soundcards hich means you can have better quality. Like if you hook up the RME box woth build in phono pres, you have a pretty sweet sounding scratchbox with the ease of a compuer. DjDecks is realiable and perfroms well as far as scratching goes. Ive never tested serato but M-Audio Torq does sound pretty sh*tty. That box you get with it, is junk

By donjuan831 Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:38 am
It seems that what ever type of crowd us djs cater to is what we will get out of it. If you're spinning to a crowd that wouldn't give a crap what you're using then, it really doesn't matter what you use, hence serato may be easy and convenient.

What I see happening (hopefully) are parties where spinning real vinyl is preferred and sometimes even expected and eventually a sub-culture is created. That's probably one of the few ways vinyl will stay alive.
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By flip-o-mat Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:50 am
bpantell wrote:True, Serrato is a tool, and also true that DJs need to spend their time focusing on the fundamentals. I spent months and months scratching before I even mixed, and then I spent years before I combined both into anything that I would even deem worthy for the club! I think that it is sound advice for beginners to truly start at the beginning and learn to match a beat without knowing the bpm first. It will only help your set become more cohesive and will provoke a better crowd response.

My friend tries to claim that downloading tracks is the new crate digging. I completely disagree to the point that we dont even talk about it anymore because it ends up in an argument.

To all the aspiring diggers- there is NO FEELING LIKE FINDING THE RECORD YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR and as soon as you throw that record on your deck it becomes a part of your personal collection, not open for download to any and everybody.

In short, your vinyl collection will remain a very personal thing and mp3's are a seemingly public domain (common knowledge). It's up to you what kind of DJ you want to be and to what crowd you will cater to.....
Peace,
B

http://www.StudioBHipHop.com


all serato djs i know have been rockin vinyl for a few years. i have >1000 vinyls and i have lots of gems in my collection.
but for playing out, NOTHING beats serato.

i wouldn't recommend beginners to go and buy serato. that would just be too much to start with...
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By Dougzaster Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:45 am
I bought it for the fact that i can scratch MP3's with it. So that means i can record a mc's vocals or my vocal or whatever else i want... and scratch it.

I have not checked into getting my own wax (sample record) pressed but i should.... soon

But until then ...besides Final Scratch... and the Numark decks(seem to break a lot and are cheaply made) Serato beats the pants off any other MP3 scratching deck for features and most importantly feel.

I am a vinyl purist to the fullest and always will be; you cant beat that deep rich grimy sound with a Louisville Slugger. + the ladies like it too and its old skool and classic...i was a 90's child and remember the 80's with a young heart. 1979

where does the time go...!?
heaven knows.


pz to you
and real hip-hop

By hiphop101 Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:58 am
Bobby Digital style...I'm a Serato supporter. I bring extra records just in case of 911. Serato give local hiphop groups a chance to perform w/out spending madd cheese to press records.
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By dj e.d.e Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:03 pm
donjuan831 wrote:It seems that what ever type of crowd us djs cater to is what we will get out of it. If you're spinning to a crowd that wouldn't give a **** what you're using then, it really doesn't matter what you use, hence serato may be easy and convenient.

What I see happening (hopefully) are parties where spinning real vinyl is preferred and sometimes even expected and eventually a sub-culture is created. That's probably one of the few ways vinyl will stay alive.


it's like that already in san diego i have gone out there to try to play and not to many clubs use decks anymore they use cdj's,it may have changed in the last 3yrs but VINYL is still strong and it hasnt gone anywhere ,
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By Blaknif Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:57 pm
If you were to ask me 2 years ago, I probably would have said KCUF Serato, however after seeing your beloved vinyl submerged in nasty water, and realizing some of that stuff is damn near irreplaceable, you have a change of heart. I Love serato!!! I still bring certain pieces to gigs, but for the most part, I'm only limited by hard drive space. Before, I use to pick through my records based on gigs. now I have more freedom to move around through genres. If you are a noobie to DJing, I would say get some wax & learn the artform. If you are a vet, try it You will love it!!!
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By Cazillac Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:31 pm
Blaknif wrote:If you were to ask me 2 years ago, I probably would have said KCUF Serato, however after seeing your beloved vinyl submerged in nasty water, and realizing some of that stuff is damn near irreplaceable, you have a change of heart.


aww damn Katrina snatched them records up too... yea then Serato is def a lifesaver for you... I always thought vinyl floated... wasn't trying to find out...
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By dj e.d.e Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:37 am
caz you need to prepare for that type of sh!t cause you live near the delta .

-If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break, [X2]
When The Levee Breaks I'll have no place to stay. LED ZEP
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By Cazillac Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:53 am
dj e.d.e wrote:caz you need to prepare for that type of sh!t cause you live near the delta .

-If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break, [X2]
When The Levee Breaks I'll have no place to stay. LED ZEP


man for real, been reading the paper out here, sh*t ain't no joke... might have to float on back to the Bay (only to have my records crushed by an earthquake)

:lol:
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By SELF1 Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:13 pm
I went to see Bambaata, Kool Herc, and Red Alert a while back ago and was shocked to see them using serato. I think this says alot for the art and its progression, however in the same breath I think its taking away from djayings core essence (digging)...especially for the younger generation. Fingers cant get that dusty on a mouse and keyboard.
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By dj e.d.e Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:03 pm
i still stand behind what i say it's the LAZY AGE.

digital should only be used for video not audio
check this out this chick throws down a set but she never switches the RECORD? i dont get it ,i remeber dudes scrabblin to find the next record,

i dont know how this works but it seems like they use the same trck all the time, is this record just one track on it? why not use the other side?

VINYL dj's dont spin like this JUST A DISCLAIMER FOR NUBIES!!!

i have seen dudes use this where they work there asses off but then again they never take the record off,

looks like she has two turns but only usin one whats the point in havin two tables...the changes the meaning of TWO TURNTABLES AND A MICROPHONE.


I GOT ONE TURNTABLE AND MY SERATO

doesnt go.

i need to stop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuH0YvZfObQ
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By Blaknif Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:55 pm
This thread made me go diggin this weekend. I got a few Kiddie records, some Trouble Funk and some Montavani stuff!!
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By DrBob Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:57 am
I own serato and love vinyl. I love vinyl for the way it feels on the platter, the lp cover and the history. But, and it's a big but for me. The tune itself is the most important thing. That’s why I love music. Ever looking for that different and fresh sound for my ears. Serato or Vinyl is a secondary issue for me. It's a tool! It doesn't make you a better dj. If you want to go as far and call it "LAZY MANS DJ'ING" then we are referring to the lugging around of vinyl and the place and replace of vinyl on the platter. That's less arm work not brain work.

The big advantage for me is...you have a rare record. You want to play that tune out but your worried. No problem serato can come into play. Not only that, but you now have 2 copies at your fingertips whilst the original stays all snug in the protective sleeve at home. In my opinion that just seems sensible. Just to throw serato users in to the LAZY box is a little bit shallow. I think, like many other users it's a case embracing all formats and tools to there own.

I think if you take a look at this list you'll see that lots of respected vinyl DJ's have embraced serato. Have they now lost your respect because they use serato??? http://www.scratchlive.net/djs/?dj=beat+junkies
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that's just my take on it.....
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By dj e.d.e Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:25 pm
DrBob wrote:I own serato and love vinyl. I love vinyl for the way it feels on the platter, the lp cover and the history. But, and it's a big but for me. The tune itself is the most important thing. That’s why I love music. Ever looking for that different and fresh sound for my ears. Serato or Vinyl is a secondary issue for me. It's a tool! It doesn't make you a better dj. If you want to go as far and call it "LAZY MANS DJ'ING" then we are referring to the lugging around of vinyl and the place and replace of vinyl on the platter. That's less arm work not brain work.

The big advantage for me is...you have a rare record. You want to play that tune out but your worried. No problem serato can come into play. Not only that, but you now have 2 copies at your fingertips whilst the original stays all snug in the protective sleeve at home. In my opinion that just seems sensible. Just to throw serato users in to the LAZY box is a little bit shallow. I think, like many other users it's a case embracing all formats and tools to there own.

I think if you take a look at this list you'll see that lots of respected vinyl DJ's have embraced serato. Have they now lost your respect because they use serato??? http://www.scratchlive.net/djs/?dj=beat+junkies
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that's just my take on it.....


the guys that i looked up to use it BAM, HERC, FLASH ,NO i dont think they are LAZY they just do alot of traveling and they make there own music ,so serato as a production and to get your own music out tool is
ok,
but to BITE yes i said BITE, cause i sent many many many hours diggin for record for a set i play some thing you dont have you then go back and down load it taken songs from my set LAZY,
i collect records and have done so for many yrs, and my records sound just as good as it did when i opened it, the main thing is to maintain your RECORDS and they will last for ever. even past digital media.

AS IT WAS SAID ABOVE IF YOUR A BEGINNER LEARN THE FUNDIMENTALS
FIRST, IT WILL MAKE THAT MUCH BETTER.
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