Submit bug reports and feature requests for the JJOS-XL and 2XL
By bellymcr Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:18 am
Has anyone asked for the ability to patch phrase stereo loops?
From Pete
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By arebee Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:51 am
Sander wrote:I would love to have the panic function back for solving hanging midi notes. The Akai OS have this on both the 1000 and 2000 and it's an excellent function.

Another tiny thing which I found very handy from the Akai os is note repeat hold available in the program\note screen.

I use that screen to change the notes of the pads to make it possible to play melodies on a couple of pads next to each other. A lot of my melodies are played with note repeat on. The problem I have now is that I need to hold the note repeat button all the time and I also have to select the pads and use the scroll wheel to change assigned notes. Often if I release the noterepeat and press it again the tempo is changed.


i stop hung notes by hitting stop a few times successively, is that what u r missing, or are u referring to a midi out reset event?

By Sander Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:54 am
arebee wrote:i stop hung notes by hitting stop a few times successively, is that what u r missing, or are u referring to a midi out reset event?

Yes I mean midi out reset. So that you can press the open windows on the selected midi track and choose for panic.
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By Mpc_Monk Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:32 pm
I'd like the feature of 'preview a sample in place while the sequencer is running' so for instance you could have a program loaded and be listening to a sequnnce and preview different kicks and snares to see which ones work best with the sequence you programmed.

By Sander Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:10 pm
I like to have the mute screen colors reversed like the earlier JJ os version and Akai OS. I can't get used to it. It's so logical to me that if something is selected(black) it is on. Why did JJ reverse the color. I work with an 2KXL aswell and mostly record my songs live by playing with the mutes. Also when I perform live for an audience I do it this way. If I use the JJ OS I have to think everytime I want to mute or unmute someting.

Most of you are proberly allready used to it, but I have allways wondered why it was changed. I have to admit that I allways use the 2000 in the studio and de 1000 with akai os for performances, but now I like to make use of the mute recording feature of the JJ os in the studio and so I start using the 1000 a lot more.

What about a customized setting? So that people can choose the way they like it.
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By arebee Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:17 pm
Sander wrote:I like to have the mute screen colors reversed like the earlier JJ os version and Akai OS. I can't get used to it. It's so logical to me that if something is selected(black) it is on. Why did JJ reverse the color. I work with an XL2K aswell and mostly record my songs live by playing with the mutes. Also when I perform live for an audience I do it this way. If I use the JJ OS I have to think everytime I want to mute or unmute someting.

Most of you are proberly allready used to it, but I have allways wondered why it was changed. I have to admit that I allways use the 2000 in the studio and de 1000 with akai os for performances, but now I like to make use of the mute recording feature of the JJ os in the studio and so I start using the 1000 a lot more.


yeh it had me at first but i got used to it

i had really hoped there'd be a choice involved - like in misc screen.
jj needs to slightly compress his font too, i noticed that the #1 takes up 1 extra pxel than needed, just when i run out of space in titles on track mutes.

By 1000dB Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:16 pm
Hey, have you ever wondered why the track-mute screen couldn't be used also for selecting channels?

ie. shift+pad to jump on that track on the main screen.

This would be so handy.
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By arebee Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:15 pm
1000dB wrote:Hey, have you ever wondered why the track-mute screen couldn't be used also for selecting channels?

ie. shift+pad to jump on that track on the main screen.

This would be so handy.


yeah - funny cos i wanted that a while back, so i could use the sliders for the correct tracks without going back to main screen every time to check, but i requested two F buttons onscreen [track-]/[track+] instead , yours is more elegant idea - in addition mbe the track could have a bigger outline to clearly show the selected track too......., but both would be great to use, u must request to JJ!

By Sander Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:02 pm
In the load screen beeing able to select the file type. This can be done in Akai os. So if you have a load of files in one folder, like me, it's very handy to select only samples or sequences, or programs.

By 1000dB Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:26 pm
Sander wrote:In the load screen beeing able to select the file type. This can be done in Akai os. So if you have a load of files in one folder, like me, it's very handy to select only samples or sequences, or programs.


Agree on that. You also had a problem with hanging midi notes? Same here. Sometimes i need to turn my soundmodule off and back on because of this.


arebee wrote:yeah - funny cos i wanted that a while back, so i could use the sliders for the correct tracks without going back to main screen every time to check, but i requested two F buttons onscreen [track-]/[track+] instead , yours is more elegant idea - in addition mbe the track could have a bigger outline to clearly show the selected track too......., but both would be great to use, u must request to JJ!


Sure I'll make a request, just tell me how/where to make it :?:
By m0dular Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:42 pm
Currently if I have a sequence that I want to export into my computer, I resample to an audio track. This is workable. This also takes a good chunk of time. Not bad if I make less than 10 sequences or so. However, sometimes I'll do like 20-30 variations on one set of sequences. Then it's a bit of a pain.

I wish there were a faster way to do this. To have to go through each sequence and tell it to sample to track 57, and then save, then clear track 57 and redo..for every seq. The functionality has already been put in by the fine folks making JJ OS.

Pattern dump, to where it only records the duration of the loop. Whether it did all sequences at once or one at a time, I don't care. "Render Sequences 1-x"? Please. I'm not the only person who wants this, right?

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By Antonym Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:54 pm
modular that would definitely make tracking out easier for people without an interface.


one thing i've mentioned before is loop and altloop crossfades, maybe in the JOINT page. i've thought it through a little more now.

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2/trim22.jpg


my biggest problem with looping is the damn click you get. you really have to fight that to get it out of your loop. that's why i'd love tiny little crossfades in loop to smooth that out. i'd love for this crossfade NOT to use additional polyphony but if they had to, i would still be happy.

this would help so much.

By m0dular Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:17 pm
Antonym wrote:modular that would definitely make tracking out easier for people without an interface.


one thing i've mentioned before is loop and altloop crossfades, maybe in the JOINT page. i've thought it through a little more now.

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2/trim22.jpg


my biggest problem with looping is the damn click you get. you really have to fight that to get it out of your loop. that's why i'd love tiny little crossfades in loop to smooth that out. i'd love for this crossfade NOT to use additional polyphony but if they had to, i would still be happy.

this would help so much.


Thanks for the speedy reply Nym!

I'm not hearing clicks in my case, and I completely agree with your first line about no extra interfaces being needed. That's pretty much what I'm wanting. A "render pattern" function, yup.

For anyone who might not already know about this:

1. Make a sequence in JJ OS 4.x
2. Go to Sample record mode (Mode+pad5)
3. Set record to Main outs.
4. Go to "main" screen.
5. Go to track 57, or 58, or 59, etc.
6. Hold REC then press play while you are on the Audio Track. Loop mode should be on.
7. The sample that is put on the respective audio track is the loop that you can then save to your Compact Flash or Hard drive on your MPC1000.

8. Imagine doing that over and over...

Time for a sandwich..

m0dular
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By arebee Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:31 pm
Antonym wrote:one thing i've mentioned before is loop and altloop crossfades, maybe in the JOINT page. i've thought it through a little more now.

my biggest problem with looping is the damn click you get. you really have to fight that to get it out of your loop. that's why i'd love tiny little crossfades in loop to smooth that out. i'd love for this crossfade NOT to use additional polyphony but if they had to, i would still be happy.

this would help so much.


firstly its easier to get zero crossings (ie no click) when using mono samples,

anyway jj should implement 'loop position snap to zero crossing' and a better zoom.....if at all possible, but without it u will need a xfade between sample values that aren't equal or contiguous, but thats rare - or at least hard to find esp. with such a limited zoom function as in the jjos. even a short fade would throw up noticeable 'bumps' rather than clicks,

i recommend just mono samples for loops. esp if u r gonna reprocess later like comps, eq, chorus reverb etc...

By 1000dB Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:33 pm
thumbs up for xfade

one other thing that occured to me while thinking about the trim screen:
couldn't the power of the realtime effects-processor be also used here?
When the edit function is selected in the trim window the playback stops right? Doesn't this mean that the effects-processor is idle?
Why couldn't there be all the realtime effects in the edit menu as well? You could apply all the reverb/bit crunge etc effects directly to the sample that you have selected. The effect would simply temporarily take over the effects processor and store fx1/2 values somewhere, and use the effects-processor with the values you enter on this screen. After that mpc would use it's resampling to either create a new wav with the effect applied, or overwrite the currently selected. When done, it would reload the stored values of fx1/2.

Of course these effects would work a bit different way than the precalculated ones on the edit menu, somehow similar to recording but the advantages would be that no more it matters if you have one master reverb and master delay on your song. You can still apply some other effects to your samples without worrying that you gonna mess up the settings you have in use in your project..... For me, this would also ease things up... somehow it feels stupid that for resampling you have to create a program for the sample+ edit mixer settings for the program so that the sample is routed through the effects you want to apply+ enter fx screen and edit parameters + record + go back to program and change the sample to the new one

what do you think?

btw. Sorry for posting this one twice, I accidentally started a new thread instead of replying.