MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By verb Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:27 pm
Do you cats think jj would be able write a os for the 5000
given that it's closer to the 1000/2500 os then the 4000 ?
could you imagine what that would be like given the 5000
has more ram. mmmm.
Last edited by verb on Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

By Dj Solace Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:44 pm
wtf do you need more ram for? are you sampling or recording there i hate when ppl talk about needing more ram i work with 64mb and never use it all 192 is plenty.

By africantigercow Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:27 pm
solace,

you gotta remember that not everybody works the same way.

for live use especially having more ram is a real help. for people using longer phrase songs more ram is also a help. SOme people might be doing hugely long arrangments.


ALSO remember that this is supposed to be the flagship product.

compromises ar supposed to be minimal.
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By McSmooth Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:41 pm
No, he can't steal the code anymore. Notice how there isn't an OS for the 500 (or previous MPCs)? Its no coincedence.

By Dj Solace Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:47 pm
africantigercow wrote:solace,

you gotta remember that not everybody works the same way.

for live use especially having more ram is a real help. for people using longer phrase songs more ram is also a help. SOme people might be doing hugely long arrangments.


ALSO remember that this is supposed to be the flagship product.

compromises ar supposed to be minimal.


True i just keep seeing all these posts everywhere about people wanting samplers with 500gb of ram and it just stumbles me but i do not play live or use huge phrases im more boom bap so the 64mb is good - sorry dint have my morning dump yet so i had to ish on here lol

By verb Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:08 pm
wtf do you need more ram for? are you sampling or recording there i hate when ppl talk about needing more ram i work with 64mb and never use it all 192 is plenty.



Naw big hommie 192 is enough for me playboy. the top typed pharse
was unclear i rewrote my statement so it's clear now.

By renegadebliss Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:30 pm
verb wrote:wtf do you need more ram for? are you sampling or recording there i hate when ppl talk about needing more ram i work with 64mb and never use it all 192 is plenty.



Naw big hommie 192 is enough for me playboy. the top typed pharse
was unclear i rewrote my statement so it's clear now.



Have you ever played a 3 hour non stop live set, where you have to literraly
do a TR808 drum solo, while the 4000 is loading up another 512M of RAM.

I"m not recording or sampling. I'm playing back samples/programs/keygroups in a live situation with people dancing that don't want to stop dancing...

People use their MPC's differently. Just because you don't use it to it's fullest potential, doesn't mean that others don't.


Cheers,
Dave

By MPC 4 ME Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:03 pm
I agree. With today' s fast and cheap memory, they could have easily added another 128mb RAM slot.

By dtaa pla muk Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:54 pm
not to mention, some keygroup programs take up 30+ megabytes APIECE, and--oh, wait, the 5000 doesn't have keygroup programs nevermind

but the point still stands, people are loading massive banks of music
and not everyone is making hip hop
and odds are for simple boom bap the 5000 is drastic overkill
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By OJ Reem Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:51 pm
renegadebliss wrote:
verb wrote:wtf do you need more ram for? are you sampling or recording there i hate when ppl talk about needing more ram i work with 64mb and never use it all 192 is plenty.



Naw big hommie 192 is enough for me playboy. the top typed pharse
was unclear i rewrote my statement so it's clear now.



Have you ever played a 3 hour non stop live set, where you have to literraly
do a TR808 drum solo, while the 4000 is loading up another 512M of RAM.

I"m not recording or sampling. I'm playing back samples/programs/keygroups in a live situation with people dancing that don't want to stop dancing...

People use their MPC's differently. Just because you don't use it to it's fullest potential, doesn't mean that others don't.


Cheers,
Dave

There have been others using MPCs live with a fraction of the memory MPCs have today. If you really want to use the MPC up to its full potential, stop ignoring its MIDI outputs. There are four of them with plenty of knobs and sliders for external control. If you need GBs of samples, simply bring you laptop loaded with your favorite streaming sampler with you like alot of DJs are doing now. No hardware sampler can replace the need for GBs of samples.

By renegadebliss Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:56 pm
OJ Reem wrote:There have been others using MPCs live with a fraction of the memory MPCs have today. If you really want to use the MPC up to its full potential, stop ignoring its MIDI outputs. There are four of them with plenty of knobs and sliders for external control. If you need GBs of samples, simply bring you laptop loaded with your favorite streaming sampler with you like alot of DJs are doing now. No hardware sampler can replace the need for GBs of samples.


I'm not like most "DJ's". 1) when I DJ, I play Vinyl. 2)So with the 4000, I'm talking about stricly making my own music.

I guess I could limit myself like others in the past, but why am I doing that, when I currently have the power at my fingertips?

1. I don't make a music on a computer. Why would I want to bring a laptop when I have an MPC and a number of Rack and Desktop Synths?

2. I use all 4 external outputs, so maybe you should readup my posts on the 4000 board. I use a varietty of Analog and Virtual Analog synths controlled from my MPC 4000 and P3 Step Sequencer for manipulating Midi Notes live.

3. I never said I needed Gigabytes of Samples, but I do use more then the 512M that is provided by 4000. I currently get by, by using a seperate rack mount sampler that allows me to load up samples, while it still is playing the existing ones.


Cheers,
Dave

By moyphee Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:09 pm
MPC 4 ME wrote:I agree. With today' s fast and cheap memory, they could have easily added another 128mb RAM slot.


A better idea would be to do away with the EXM128 which is nothing but pc100 level RAM on proprietary card. Add a simple DIMM slot and a lot of users are happy...oh wait.

$149 for a customized $20 chip - to good of a hustle.

Smart folks do the generic thing -Ebay # 280193417248

By jocks Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:19 pm
McSmooth wrote:No, he can't steal the code anymore. Notice how there isn't an OS for the 500 (or previous MPCs)? Its no coincedence.

hmm... read page 178 in the reference manual. it tells you how to upgrade your mpc5k, doesn't it ?!
It should be up to JJ if they want to hack the OS, just like before :wink:
If Akai decide to compete with JJ this time, there won't be any reason for an OS hack.

By renegadebliss Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:25 pm
jocks wrote:It should be up to JJ if they want to hack the OS, just like before :wink:
.


Hmmm... JJ stole the Source Code for the OS's, he didn't hack them. So it's really up
to whether Akai wants to give him access to the Source Code, He didn't uncompile it from the sysex update....


But OJ Reem keeps indicating that "JJ" is back at Akai though I don't know how he knows this, so you may have to ask him, though if I was Akai, I wouldn't be hiring somebody who stole my source code back myself ;)