I would love this in jj os2 , automatic placing of smaples

I'm aliitle confused, as I've never used REX files. How is this different? As I undeerstand it a REX file is a sequence with slices of a sample, so that if you speed it up or slow it down, drums still sound normal. With this you could still play the file and play the slices couldn't you? Sorry if I'm lost.

As I undeerstand it a REX file is a sequence with slices of a sample, so that if you speed it up or slow it down, drums still sound normal. With this you could still play the file and play the slices couldn't you?

Yeah thats right. the slight difference is how the entire loop gets played.
In reason theres a rex player which can play the loop along with your track, but as far as i know you can't hit a key and trigger the entire loop, you can only play the individual slices from keys.Some one correct me if im wrong please!

Cmon now how much easier does it have to be?

I know what your saying but I don't see it like that, this type of thing has the potential to be really creative too.

Yeah you could be lazy with it but I for one am not lazy when it comes to chopping, programing etc: In fact Ive just released a single with literally hundreds of sample chops(not that that matters- the bottom line is the music hopefully).
Check it out...

http://www.fatcity.co.uk/sales/pages/Mu ... geid=13690

itms://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSt ... 3&s=143441

The initial core of it was done a few years ago an Emu Esi-32 (the B side has a lot more JJOS use on it). The A sides a JB's type funk track,made entirely from samples off about 8 or 9 records,none of which were funk originally ,all chopped up,played differently,retuned ,layered etc etc blah,blah. That took time!
The B sides a jazz tune with a similar concept (chop samples off records,play em, make it sound live).

back to the topic though: From JJ's point of view this is the sort of addition that'd probably sell OS2 to "lazy noobies" too, and give the rest of us another powerful way to manipulate samples.Sure I can live without it, but it'd be nice.

Mikollo,
hey I like your style here, good work!

I'm very interested in this, thanks for clearing that up for me mikolo...

thanks wavemartian thats appreciated man!

no problem wudsiba...im still thinking of things you could do with slice to pad pattern !

I do a lot of beat programming and i find it useful to chop breaks with reccyle then in cubase you can study th etiming of the breaks . Where the kicks are slightly off and hi hat position you can learn a lot like this .

This feature on the mpc1000 would be the same you could really improve your beat programming . (i know you all love to play your beats and wouldn't like this)

Lampdog wrote:There's no fun in that. Are people so jaded that they can't be bothered with placing their own samples... Automatic this and automatic that.....

How about adding a "make me a beat" button and just watch the muhfuka GO GO GO and hook up a whole song.... while you sit back and chilllll... the easiest beat you ever made.... err watched being made....

I'm done with my rant now .

Doesn't STAPLES have the "EASY" button?? djdsk should try that.....

mikolo wrote:

Cmon now how much easier does it have to be?

I know what your saying but I don't see it like that, this type of thing has the potential to be really creative too.

Yeah you could be lazy with it but I for one am not lazy when it comes to chopping, programing etc: In fact Ive just released a single with literally hundreds of sample chops(not that that matters- the bottom line is the music hopefully).
Check it out...

http://www.fatcity.co.uk/sales/pages/Mu ... geid=13690

itms://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSt ... 3&s=143441

The initial core of it was done a few years ago an Emu Esi-32 (the B side has a lot more JJOS use on it). The A sides a JB's type funk track,made entirely from samples off about 8 or 9 records,none of which were funk originally ,all chopped up,played differently,retuned ,layered etc etc blah,blah. That took time!
The B sides a jazz tune with a similar concept (chop samples off records,play em, make it sound live).

back to the topic though: From JJ's point of view this is the sort of addition that'd probably sell OS2 to "lazy noobies" too, and give the rest of us another powerful way to manipulate samples.Sure I can live without it, but it'd be nice.

I understand your point bro but what im saying is its already easy enough... Think about it. You find a classical record that took someone months to years to compose rehearse and record and with the MPC we have a melody for a potential hit in a few minutes. Then factor in the home studio aspect that eliminates the need for the little guys to need big studios because with technology a home studio is in every musicians house, instead of drummers we have loops, instead of tons of instruments we have patches, instead of thousands of dollars in outboard gear we have plugins... Now dont get me wrong I use this technology to my advantage too but as the years pass it gets easier which also should worry us. Now because of all the easy features in modern day equipment the average joe with no talent can be a superstar. Look at soulja boy. seriously tho me personally I think its easy enough. I dont mind dedicating a few hours to putting together a track. I think between the Mpc itself and the JJ os its just fine. I dont think it should be made so easy that 10 year olds are cranking out hits. Thats just me tho.

hey poundaproblem,
if not having a feature like this stops the next soulja boy i am definitely with you!haha
My point is that creativity is what you apply to the tools at your disposal. There a lot of people who learn to play an instrument well, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're being creative with it...think about all those guys in guitar shops playing "stairway to heaven" or whatever.

What id be after with this type of thing is if it worked with pattern mode,and hopefully not to crank out souless music by numbers sh!t... If you could you could play a loop just by hitting a pad but also totally control every last slice within that loop, it 'd be like combining the mpc's playability with its programmability.Like the patch phrases we've got already but with alot more potential to mess around and be creative.

"My point is that creativity is what you apply to the tools at your disposal"

tru tru I see your point.

not a "lazy" feature request at all.
that could be used as a "poor man" groove templates technique on the MPC1000.
get the rhythmic feel of an old break and apply it to your own single hits/chops.
it makes sense to me...

I think it can be creative just i remember using the SONG 2 blur song break using it as a midi pattern speeding it up times 2 and making a really nice electronic hook out of it . A lot of the time i love to make music out of playing around with things then adding to it ,

I don't see why everyone is so against it people have been using recycle for years .

I think some people buy MPC's expecting it to behave like "GarageBand" software. Know what your spending your money on before you buy anything. Ableton live 7 is a beast and can do anything your heart desires. Seriously. Personally, I enjoy the hands on feel of the MPC, but some of you need to stop with the wishful dreams and the JJ pleads and use what you got. When you bought the MPC you knew it didn't have all the extras it now has. Please people, lets just make some dope music and stop impatiently waiting for a JJ update. If/when it happens then great, but if not, continue to dig them crates and chop manually, or buy EXACTLY what you need. Don't buy an Escort expecting E-Class performance.

roxstar, I see where your coming from, but really I think you reading too much into it. I love hardware. Period. But that doesn't mean that hardware can't steal something back from software. I love the JJ os, and if they never add a new feature, I would still feel that we all got an amazing deal. This, to me, just seems like it might not be that difficult of a programming job. I could be wrong, as I know nothing about programming really. There are many aspects of JJ that I will probably never use. Probably many I will never even know about! But that's one of the great things about it. JJ allows us all to pick and choose how we work with our MPCs. I have also always felt incouraged to request something that you would like to see in future updates. If you think about it, this could really be a very creative tool.