Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc

By zapp Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:38 am
Mustardseed wrote:AC-DC, Rock'in Roll,

Disco sucks, so does Soul..................

Just Joking.

Damn! good thing I scrolled down, I was about to ask for the moderators to ban you...hahaha, just joking too.
Seriously , I have to repeat myself and say this thread is retarded. If a record dealer says that to me I'll just agree and ask him for a discount "since it's been picked clean you won't be able to sell it like you use to. So how about leaving me those JB's at 50% "
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By Mustardseed Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:34 pm
zapp wrote:
Mustardseed wrote:AC-DC, Rock'in Roll,

Disco sucks, so does Soul..................

Just Joking.

this thread is retarded.


No doubt.

By imakebeats65 Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:50 pm
:shock: First of all you have to have a love for music not just one particular style.. Now as a lover of music it should be quite easy to listen to songs all the way through to get an understanding of how these songs were made as far as the intro,vocals,bridge,turnaround, etc remember the mindset that these catts had when they were making these songs(that are timeless by the way remembering that "HIPHOP" as we know it is just a babay at 30 something years old...Most of these song are a lot older than that (and im not talking bout the 80s songs that really fueled the whole "POP" side of The Game as it is) Okay How many times have you expierenced as a producer using the same beat as somebody else but they just beat you to it? and then you realized that sometimes they did'nt use the dopest part?? WHY? because they just wanted the "BREAK" or "BASS LINE" that most (NOT ALL) people think is in the beginning or the middle? even if you dont have wax i would dare to say that not everybody listens for the same thing .I go beat digging with my peeps and we all come up with diffrent stuff...So it's not really that "Soul" or "FUNK" is played out it's just the lame production skills of some folks that dont want to work!! Question what was the first thing you did after you sampled into your MPC? you Chopped it up right EXACTLY LOL... Just go back and listen to those songs Im sure you will find something worthy of using in a way that no one else did Oh yea it's called "CREATIVITY" Plus not everybody knows what records to look for sometimes it's just what someone told them or they read about besides records are the "Foundation" of this whole "CULTURE" so show them respect by listening to the whole song and understanding the atmosphere in which these songs were made!!! Im not saying that you have to be a d.j. to understand and produce (an argument I had with some one at Guitar Ctr in Jerzie) but it would help you to know whole songs because they all are great in thier own way.... okay who's got that John Hembrick Joint on 45??? or that Obrey Wilson??? chop, chop chop, my friends... the days of whole loops have been over Oh and you can thank BIz for that LOL....

By cunoSvaa Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:51 am
could be just because i dont do it for money or that im not a real great producer that i dont mind using something that somebody else used but i will say that going international is very very helpful with the fact that the diggin is world wide and soul is very picked through
but then again to all who disagree with me im just merely saying how i feel about it all

By terrellmoragne Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:12 am
No way in hell will i stay away from any genre of music. Soul and funk is what started this hip hop thing in the first place.You don't just have to loop the same old thing or chop the same old way that the last guy did. Every song is different ,every song is going to have a different vibe even if it is a heavily used sample.So I beg to differ about that sample issue. I even challenge you to replay or recreate a sample with live musicians like Dr. Dre uses. He did alot of it on the Chronic 2001. Check out Battlecat on you tube. Battlecat makes alot of the west coast hits out there on that side. i want to get more into playing and growing as a musician myself. Learn music theory and chord progression and use samples as something to build on. Me myself I like soul,R&B,and funk because I like to see people dance.

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By dj e.d.e Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:16 am
terrellmoragne wrote:No way in hell will i stay away from any genre of music. Soul and funk is what started this hip hop thing in the first place.You don't just have to loop the same old thing or chop the same old way that the last guy did. Every song is different ,every song is going to have a different vibe even if it is a heavily used sample.So I beg to differ about that sample issue. I even challenge you to replay or recreate a sample with live musicians like Dr. Dre uses. He did alot of it on the Chronic 2001. Check out Battlecat on you tube. Battlecat makes alot of the west coast hits out there on that side. i want to get more into playing and growing as a musician myself. Learn music theory and chord progression and use samples as something to build on. Me myself I like soul,R&B,and funk because I like to see people dance.

http://myspace.com/projectzeropro
yo.... you got any wax slip me some
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By Smoove03 Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:13 pm
i dont care who used what. if i like the sample, im gonna use it. lol you can tell that by listening to some of my stuff. i know some of the samples i use have been raped and played over and over. but fkk it. soul is really easy to sample and use. i used to tell people new to sampling that dont know wat to sample, just cop some old soul records and you can find a nice loop in no time. start on that. because its true. its just really simple.

now if you actually wanna find some nice one shot instruments or some jazz kinda instruments, go with the classical stuff. the jazz records. man i find some real beautiful stuff listening to those genres. soul records are good for vocal samples. you can also find some nice loops to filter and use as bass. really. dont turn your back on that genre. wether its been raped or not. if you sample something that sounds dope thats been used before, use it in a different way. dont use the excuse that its been sampled too many times. well then flip that joint in a new way! people dont even gotta know where it came from!!
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By Blakksmiff Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:06 am
Anyone who says "hasnt this genre been picked dry" obviously does not truly understand sampling. Close thread.

By fobedafied Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:13 am
Smoove03 wrote:i dont care who used what.
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By Menco Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:11 am
As a starting beat maker I found out soul and funk is easyier to chop then other genres. But a lot of things feel played out to me. Now I'm digging for other genres and rare records almost nobody knows. Or when I chop up a soul record, I try to flip it in a whole different way.

To me, it doesn't matter what kinda of genre u use, it's more important HOW you use it. This culture is about providing the freshest beats, and try to create some no one ever done before. You can even chop up thriller, but if you chop it up in a way no one ever did before, you'll receive my respect as well.

By Dahoyt Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:16 pm
i like to dig for shit like christmas carols and shit sugar flum farie bayba thats some hot shit right there
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By Ayso Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:07 pm
i personally just like buying records that i want to own...and i especially love buying records that have samples other producers have used...one of my fav aspects of hip hop is hearing the OG sample of beats...i figure that i dont have the passion for producing so im never gonna make it anyways...ill just stick to rapping and collect records on the side...and my MPC is there just in case i feel the urge to chop some shit up...

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By Smoove03 Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:46 am
Dahoyt wrote:i like to dig for **** like christmas carols and **** sugar flum farie bayba thats some hot **** right there


lmao :lol:
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By Blakksmiff Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:10 pm
Lord Toranaga wrote:
Blakksmiff wrote:Anyone who says "hasnt this genre been picked dry" obviously does not truly understand sampling. Close thread.



Spoken like someone with a truly closed mind


OK. I thought my response was totally open minded......