MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
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By Blue Haze Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:23 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:
Blue Haze wrote:
We are all MPC users but we all are not full time producers. No one only wants to be an collector, hobbyist, or just a consumer of mpcs and music gear right?


Some people collect stamps..others collect coins.....some people collect baseballs and pay $1 million for them :shock: So if someone wants to collect MPCs, keyboards, etc..so be it. I am a hobbyist. I enjoy that role in my spare time. By I don't feel a need to dis any of the fake Just Blazes on the internet because I really don't care what they do. What I wrote in this thread is not a personal attack on anyone. In the context of the Just Blaze rant, I left my opinion (like I always do) and respect everyone else enough to let them express their opinions. However, there is nothing wrong with disagreeing with others' opinions. I like the MPC 5000 and enjoy making music with it as well as testing the limits of its OS. As Just Blaze wrote...I am also a beta tester by nature. Again...the content of his rant is the same as what is being said across every forum on the internet about new products. The only difference is that this site appears to be the only forum dedicated to a brand name that outright hates that respective brand. Where's the love? (no need to answer that but if you do, just keep it in this rant thread).

By the way...everytime Akai drops a new MPC, it's funny to see how so many people around here hate on the actual users of these new products because they enjoy using them. ???

...we get it. Akai is unpopular in this forum. Despite that, there are a few of us that enjoy their products and will continue to buy them. Everytime there is an MPC released that is better than my current one (such as the MPC 5000 being a major upgrade to the MPC 2500), I will pick one up as soon as it hits the streets and give you my honest opinion on it...that's what I do. My intention is not to be the next Just Blaze. But I wouldn't mind being the next Kanye. :wink:



Assuming what others think and want is one of the biggest mistakes one can make.

Most people want to make music plain and simple. Collecting equipment is your choice and more power to you.

Question is how to use it and what is your workflow? You know that the gear itself loses value after you walk out the store with it, the only REAL value is the ART you create with it. Sometimes a piece of gear has added value also because its previous owner actually did something with it.

Next Kanye or not (I`m a fan too) it is your ear, dedication, and mastery of your craft. No one hates a mpc user that is a fallacy and a figment of anyone`s imagination, No one can truly hate a piece of gear that they have mastered.

By the way I disagree this site isn`t Named Akai users site it is named MPC Forums for users of MPCs difference being about Learning and Using MPCs to Make Music not about bragging rights on collections.

PEOPLE Love what they do MAKING music and they want a very Comfortable Workflow to realize their Voices. When the tool as hand isn`t conductive to that with some problems they have a right to ask how to fix it or alternative ways of working.

However I do agree with you on one thing if any ANY MPC I OWNED didn`t work take it back and send as much email as one can to the Official Akai Professional Site. On this forum we are mostly producers, creators, musicians, DJs, and whatnots not the technicans or employees of Akai Pro.

Make music is my motto.

Any workflow tips Jah???
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By Blue Haze Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:31 am
scd wrote:
Blue Haze wrote:It`s all good if House is your style this link is Mondo Grosso another mpc user too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf68jyNi7Dk

EEEkkk! No. :shock:
I am more into this: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzqg7K87GJU Skip the first 3.00 minutes. Blaze was just born and I was 14 when this music came out :D I like arpeggiators and sequencers running old synthesizers mostly. No MPCs around in those days but Moog step sequencers with a blasting 24 steps :-)


The house trak was done with a 4k as Mondo was a avid user. ha, ha, ha. House is good for ya if you add soul to it. ha, ha.

Anyway it seems you came up in the 80`s so I do you one better basslines is so important regardless of the synth leads that is the key. Some fool may sample this ha, ha,

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=koGywVUJ9hE
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By Askia Shaheed Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:28 am
Blue Haze wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:
Blue Haze wrote:
We are all MPC users but we all are not full time producers. No one only wants to be an collector, hobbyist, or just a consumer of mpcs and music gear right?


Some people collect stamps..others collect coins.....some people collect baseballs and pay $1 million for them :shock: So if someone wants to collect MPCs, keyboards, etc..so be it. I am a hobbyist. I enjoy that role in my spare time. By I don't feel a need to dis any of the fake Just Blazes on the internet because I really don't care what they do. What I wrote in this thread is not a personal attack on anyone. In the context of the Just Blaze rant, I left my opinion (like I always do) and respect everyone else enough to let them express their opinions. However, there is nothing wrong with disagreeing with others' opinions. I like the MPC 5000 and enjoy making music with it as well as testing the limits of its OS. As Just Blaze wrote...I am also a beta tester by nature. Again...the content of his rant is the same as what is being said across every forum on the internet about new products. The only difference is that this site appears to be the only forum dedicated to a brand name that outright hates that respective brand. Where's the love? (no need to answer that but if you do, just keep it in this rant thread).

By the way...everytime Akai drops a new MPC, it's funny to see how so many people around here hate on the actual users of these new products because they enjoy using them.

...we get it. Akai is unpopular in this forum. Despite that, there are a few of us that enjoy their products and will continue to buy them. Everytime there is an MPC released that is better than my current one (such as the MPC 5000 being a major upgrade to the MPC 2500), I will pick one up as soon as it hits the streets and give you my honest opinion on it...that's what I do. My intention is not to be the next Just Blaze. But I wouldn't mind being the next Kanye.



Assuming what others think and want is one of the biggest mistakes one can make.

Most people want to make music plain and simple. Collecting equipment is your choice and more power to you.

Question is how to use it and what is your workflow? You know that the gear itself loses value after you walk out the store with it, the only REAL value is the ART you create with it. Sometimes a piece of gear has added value also because its previous owner actually did something with it.

Next Kanye or not (I`m a fan too) it is your ear, dedication, and mastery of your craft. No one hates a mpc user that is a fallacy and a figment of anyone`s imagination, No one can truly hate a piece of gear that they have mastered.

By the way I disagree this site isn`t Named Akai users site it is named MPC Forums for users of MPCs difference being about Learning and Using MPCs to Make Music not about bragging rights on collections.

PEOPLE Love what they do MAKING music and they want a very Comfortable Workflow to realize their Voices. When the tool as hand isn`t conductive to that with some problems they have a right to ask how to fix it or alternative ways of working.

However I do agree with you on one thing if any ANY MPC I OWNED didn`t work take it back and send as much email as one can to the Official Akai Professional Site. On this forum we are mostly producers, creators, musicians, DJs, and whatnots not the technicans or employees of Akai Pro.

Make music is my motto.

Any workflow tips...


There are plenty of things people collect which lose value as soon as you leave the store. But if that is your hobby, it doesn't really much matter if other people understand you or not. I never said I was making an investment anyway. I can't recall a thread that I was bragging about buying an MPC either...especially not here where many of you think that I wasted my money in the first place. Another truth is that every MPC 5000 user in this forum could have purchased an MPC 4000, 2500, 2000XL, etc. and still have plenty of money left over to buy a keyboard/synth. This is not bragging but simply the truth. Can we live?

Regardless of what you wrote, this is an MPC forum dedicated mostly to users that use MPCs which are made by Akai. No different than several other forums with the exception that people hate Akai here. This is obvious so why debate it? Re-read some of your own posts/threads. There are plenty of user forums that are not ran by the company that makes the products. Many of them have company employees that are also active forum members. This site even has company employees that are forum members. But they don't post because all the negativity...I assume. Remember when many of you tried to run off the beta testers that posted here? Maybe if people change their behavior things will change.

As far as tips....there are only a few of us here that actually have a 5K. If an actual user needs help using one, I will add my comments in that respective thread like I always do. Also..an MPC is an MPC. Much of what I can write has been written about in numerous threads. Besides..what work flow tips have you given lately (that hasn't been written about a thousand times)? ???

But back to Just Blaze...did anyone tell him that he can load an entire folder full of synth programs at once..there is no need to do them one by one? Of course there is still a 128 program limit in the 5K (which is the same as the MPC 2500). What is the maximum number of programs you can have in the MPC 4000?
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By Blue Haze Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:03 am
(Question is how to use it and what is your workflow? You know that the gear itself loses value after you walk out the store with it, the only REAL value is the ART you create with it. Sometimes a piece of gear has added value also because its previous owner actually did something with it.) My original quote.



Regardless of what you wrote, this is an MPC forum dedicated mostly to users that use MPCs which are made by Akai. Quote by Jahrome


Re-read some of your own posts/threads. Quote by Jahrome.


Hmmn last I heard this site was owned and managed by MPC-Tutor!!!! When did Tutor become an Akai employee or when did he sell the site to Akai Pro?





I have no problems with Akai Japan aka Pro Audio Japan cuz help it only a call away.

My gear works fine for me so I can focus on my craft.


The truth is all MPC users have legitimate problems that should be discuss directly with Akai about the hinderance to their workflow on their particular units. Not all users are the same and not all users have the same problems. Hell according to your own words not all users make music either. Some are just collectors with a penance for getting banned on whatever site they go.

Anyways you are not the JUDGE of what is hate or love if you do the same yourself.

Are you are afraid to post any tips???
By FRESHFOR'88 Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:08 am
I think Jahrome just likes to hear himself argue :lol: ..
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By Askia Shaheed Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:25 am
I can't recall anyone questioning who runs or own this site :lol:

No one is trying to stop MPC users that have a legitimate problem from discussing it. Haven't you read the bug threads? Of course you have. MPC 5000 users have been expressing what we like and dislike about the MPC 5000 from the start.
Bywildstyle72 Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:47 am
justblaze wrote:i did.. and still do.
but i never really put it too much use. another impulse buy. and it wasnt really comfortable to work on. i pulled it back out atfer trying out the 5000 and apparently someone in my studio had put the JJOS on it.. at first i was :angry: but then i was pretty impressed. almost enough to try and make something on it.. i probably will when work slows down.



JB what ever happen to the protool hype you were talking about a few month back that you gave up on the mpc, working with protools,v-drum,and few keyboard,and on to go work with your sony laptop and maybe getting a mpc 500(logic 8 is looking real good). Know you back on mpc or you just back and forth with DAW and MPCs. What are your basic main tools you using now. JB you still collecting old video game and polo shirt :D
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By Blue Haze Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:01 am
You know blaze wildly is your biggest fan switch his own setup just like yours. :D It good to see you back wildstyle.
By 4dahaterz Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:10 pm
dang... im gone for 2 days... and im missing some of the BS talk on the forum....

Didnt get to read all the replies after JustBlaze posted the long post on page 9 or 10, but... im glad Akai sent ya an email... Maybe you can throw some idea features at them to step this machine up a lil more.
By 4dahaterz Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:20 pm
Blue Haze wrote:People are always ready to attack the messenger rather than listen to the message. If you disagree just disagree with the guys based on your own facts no need to go off topic getting negative on a fellow (successful producer) I might add. It is all about the music and the fellow has made some great music that alot aspire to become just as successful.

Remember he didn`t post this rant on MPC forums S cence did off on his blog and he has been a long time member off and on over the past 4 yrs responding to certain interests and questions he had.

We are all MPC users but we all are not full time producers. No one only wants to be an collector, hobbyist, or just a consumer of mpcs and music gear right?


Disagree with him if you wish, all jokes aside but his work speaks for itself no matter what gear he uses, it is the man.

SCD one of my favorite Blaze joints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waSuGcUQPII

Now does that makes him right and you wrong NO!!!! Does it makes him a experienced professional just like you YES.


Make music whatever gear you have as long as it bumps.


DAMN!!! i can totally agree wit ya for once again... very well spoken
By justblaze Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:08 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:

But back to Just Blaze...did anyone tell him that he can load an entire folder full of synth programs at once..there is no need to do them one by one? Of course there is still a 128 program limit in the 5K (which is the same as the MPC 2500). What is the maximum number of programs you can have in the MPC 4000?


already been addressed if you read back. i clarified for anyone who didnt understand what i was trying to say. i know you can load folders, but when trying to test and organize sounds, i found it faster to do them one by one. especially since there was a bug that sometimes would not let u delete progs after loading sometimes.

maximum prgs in the 4000 may be 128 not sure. but that doesnt matter as the synth thing wasnt part of he equation with the 4k
By justblaze Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:32 am
Blue Haze wrote:Remember he didn`t post this rant on MPC forums S cence did off on his blog and he has been a long time member off and on over the past 4 yrs responding to certain interests and questions he had.



Has there been someone in here posing as me in the past?

or were u referring to s ence
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By DJ Hellfire Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:33 am
justblaze wrote:
Blue Haze wrote:


Has there been someone in here posing as me in the past?





I remember SEVERAL years back there was! But nobody believed it was him (or you rather). I don't know why mothaf*ckas get on here posing as famous mothaf*ckas! You can tell they ain't who they posing to be. Except this time, I can (as well as other people can) tell that it really is you, just by the way you type. All your posts are long as f*ck, just like your rant, and you always type an ending to your post/thought or say you gotta go, but then briefly discuss another idea! LOL! :lol: My mother does that! Also, I can tell it's you because you type the way you talk in your vids. You can tell you have some sort of college education from your typing/talkin, which you really do, (Rutgers, correct?). But anyway, if you search, you can't probably find posts by a fake JB if the boards go back that far. It was a while ago.

You mentioned that the synths take up a lot of memory. Is there no RAM upgrade yet for the 5K, or is yours already maxed out?
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:41 am
justblaze wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:

But back to Just Blaze...did anyone tell him that he can load an entire folder full of synth programs at once..there is no need to do them one by one? Of course there is still a 128 program limit in the 5K (which is the same as the MPC 2500). What is the maximum number of programs you can have in the MPC 4000?


already been addressed if you read back. i clarified for anyone who didnt understand what i was trying to say. i know you can load folders, but when trying to test and organize sounds, i found it faster to do them one by one. especially since there was a bug that sometimes would not let u delete progs after loading sometimes.

maximum prgs in the 4000 may be 128 not sure. but that doesnt matter as the synth thing wasnt part of he equation with the 4k


You can always load up a synth (such as a bass) and then tweak it to get the sound you are looking for. But just like anyone that has been using MPCs around here a long time...I want more as well. Give us room for 300 sample/synth programs. Not that I would ever have that many loaded but I respect everyone's feature requests because they can only improve what we have. I really hope Akai adds a global program editing function as mentioned in the Rant Blog. This is a function that should be implemented immediately above all else plus any lingering bugs.