good records to sample snares?>

****** NEED TO START EQ'ING

loo2004ep wrote:****** NEED TO START EQ'ING

you win "most steriotypically stupid post of the year" award.

kvisko wrote:

loo2004ep wrote:****** NEED TO START EQ'ING

you win "most steriotypically stupid post of the year" award.

haha, this from someone who mispells "stereotypically"

How about records for hihats? that shit is tough!!

elmacaco wrote:How about records for hihats? that **** is tough!!

60-70's classic rock

deity13 wrote:

elmacaco wrote:How about records for hihats? that **** is tough!!

60-70's classic rock

I'm thinking of sampling from my old Yes, Rush, King Crimson etc albums, but I'm a bit confused about the legal situation. Could I get sued if I use a distinctive snare hit like Bill Bruford's? Or a single guitar note from Mr. Fripp? There was the court case in the UK years ago, where the Art Of Noise successfully sued The Prodigy for using the word "Hey!" ...

stereoroid wrote:

deity13 wrote:

elmacaco wrote:How about records for hihats? that **** is tough!!

60-70's classic rock

I'm thinking of sampling from my old Yes, Rush, King Crimson etc albums, but I'm a bit confused about the legal situation. Could I get sued if I use a distinctive snare hit like Bill Bruford's? Or a single guitar note from Mr. Fripp? There was the court case in the UK years ago, where the Art Of Noise successfully sued The Prodigy for using the word "Hey!" ...

I think it would be easier to pick out a word than a snare or kik,or lik that was slightly altered. I don't know for sure if they would catch it guess it depends on how widespread the track got. There was thread on here a while back with all the legal jargon . If you messed with the sound enough I wouldn't worry about it.

Frankly wrote:

Concertmate wrote:One thing I've learnt over time is not to get frustrated at results that don't sound as proffessional as you may hope. It all comes down to $$$

Exactly. People have to remember that these CDs they're comparing themselves too...those are being worked through the best outboard gear money can buy, mixed and mastered on million dollar recording consoles by the industry's top engineers, and mastered on the best equipment.

As a UK hip hopper I must disagree... Some of the rawest banging beats have come from bedroom studio's and im talkin about artists who are established (yeah thats how our scene is here in the UK).. for example.. dunno if theres anyone on here familiar but Taskforces Music From the Corner is a good example...

Its not just about the equipment.. its definitely about how you use it it.. obviously to an extent ya need some quality control but I find the MPC 1k plenty enough to get those banging drums....

70's disco records... a good source for snappy snares.

TerroristProphecy wrote:
As a UK hip hopper I must disagree... Some of the rawest banging beats have come from bedroom studio's and im talkin about artists who are established (yeah thats how our scene is here in the UK).. for example.. dunno if theres anyone on here familiar but Taskforces Music From the Corner is a good example...

Its not just about the equipment.. its definitely about how you use it it.. obviously to an extent ya need some quality control but I find the MPC 1k plenty enough to get those banging drums....

Again, I disagree. I think it's a misconception that the beat that Kanye did on his MPC and ASR10 goes straight to the manufacturing plant. The bedroom is where the pre-production is done. I agree, there are tons of producers (big name guys) who are running on an 002 at home (or wherever), a la Alchemist. He's got an ASR10, a turntable running into the 002. However, his beats don't go from bedroom to shelves. They get sent to larger post produtcion studios where the audio is ran through top notch gear, and the final mixdown is done. Then they get sent to a mastering engineer who works his magic. It's a long process.

Frankly wrote:

TerroristProphecy wrote:
As a UK hip hopper I must disagree... Some of the rawest banging beats have come from bedroom studio's and im talkin about artists who are established (yeah thats how our scene is here in the UK).. for example.. dunno if theres anyone on here familiar but Taskforces Music From the Corner is a good example...

Its not just about the equipment.. its definitely about how you use it it.. obviously to an extent ya need some quality control but I find the MPC 1k plenty enough to get those banging drums....

Again, I disagree. I think it's a misconception that the beat that Kanye did on his MPC and ASR10 goes straight to the manufacturing plant. The bedroom is where the pre-production is done. I agree, there are tons of producers (big name guys) who are running on an 002 at home (or wherever), a la Alchemist. He's got an ASR10, a turntable running into the 002. However, his beats don't go from bedroom to shelves. They get sent to larger post produtcion studios where the audio is ran through top notch gear, and the final mixdown is done. Then they get sent to a mastering engineer who works his magic. It's a long process.

Anyone who says they can't make a beat bang without really expensive gear doesn't have a clue how to make a beat.

You need to stop crying about your gear, if you got an MPC, a computer, some old records and decent monitoring and you learn a little bit about the process then you can make a beat bang. Lots of records are mastered digitally all within protools, some never leave a computer.
Do you think KWest has his beats mastered through all this expensive gear to make them bang?? Or do you think he gets his beats mastered through expensive gear because they bang??

I agree with TerroristProphecy

stereoroid wrote:

deity13 wrote:

elmacaco wrote:How about records for hihats? that **** is tough!!

60-70's classic rock

I'm thinking of sampling from my old Yes, Rush, King Crimson etc albums, but I'm a bit confused about the legal situation. Could I get sued if I use a distinctive snare hit like Bill Bruford's? Or a single guitar note from Mr. Fripp? There was the court case in the UK years ago, where the Art Of Noise successfully sued The Prodigy for using the word "Hey!" ...

What's up man? Where abouts in Dublin you based?

you can definately make a beat bang on the mpc. dont get it twisted. you can make it bang harder by using a good engineer and a good mastering job.

get it sounding as good as you can on the mpc.
then take it to the studio.

banger.

Dos wrote:Anyone who says they can't make a beat bang without really expensive gear doesn't have a clue how to make a beat.

You need to stop crying about your gear, if you got an MPC, a computer, some old records and decent monitoring and you learn a little bit about the process then you can make a beat bang. Lots of records are mastered digitally all within protools, some never leave a computer.
Do you think KWest has his beats mastered through all this expensive gear to make them bang?? Or do you think he gets his beats mastered through expensive gear because they bang??

I agree with TerroristProphecy

Damn, way to go an look into things I never even said. Where and when did I say you can't make a beat without expensive gear? You were obviously talking to me since you quoted me. I specifically said you CAN make beats on equipment such as an MPC.

Where did I cry about my gear? Now you're just making stuff up.

You can't tell me you don't hear a difference (SOUND QUALITY) between a major label project mixed and mastered on the best equipment by the top engineers in the game. Like I said, it doesn't go from the bedroom to the press. There is a process.

sensewondah wrote:you can definately make a beat bang on the mpc. dont get it twisted. you can make it bang harder by using a good engineer and a good mastering job.

get it sounding as good as you can on the mpc.
then take it to the studio.

Exactly!

Pfff. i'm sick of people asking how to make your sh*t bang. Use your ears. Sample some hits and layer them. There's 1000 topics on this on this forum, use the search.
If you can't make it bang on the mpc, you'll have to sample some more.

EQ, compression, distortion? You can't make a wack sample sound great. So don't advice people to use it untill they know how tho get a decent sound in the first place.