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By EducatedHands Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:36 am
my advice is to just keep checking yourself before you wreck yourself. i've made mistakes w/ purchases by subconsciously tricking my dumb azz into thinking it's a good idea like it's what i need. honestly, i'm not buying the swing on the 3k thing. i was messing with one the other day. it's a FLY machine. don't get me wrong. feel's like a tank. but as a new school cat it just doesn't feel as fun to me. it's slower, can't do a lot of the things i see as essential to my workflow. and let's face it - this day and age equipment can do a whole lot more, and stay relatively cheap. obviously theres that sacrifice in physical durability but... it is what it is.
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By sinister_keys Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:05 am
Lampdog wrote:
bedouin wrote:No.

That's a downgrade not an upgrade.
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By fasttrackpimp Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:43 pm
DukeNewport wrote:
bedouin wrote:The 3000 is also a downgrade.

If it's a sturdy feeling you want akin to the classic MPCs look at the 2500.


I Disagree


Same. The 500 may have better features, but I could never comfortably work with such a small mpc. It was just irritating to me. 2500's case felt sturdy to me, but that data wheel sucked so much it was annoying to use for me. I'd still say get and xl instead or get the 3k.
By bedouin Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:38 pm
A sturdy build means nothing when a machine is close to 20 years old and will inevitability need repairs. It's like -- a 1975 Mercedes may have been well built, but it's had five owners, multiple patch jobs, and it's a pain to find parts for.

Many people like the old machines because it's what they grew up with and are used to. I have no criticism for them really. Many just buy vintage because it's famed or for nostalgic purposes, which is fine if you feel comfortable within those limitations and understand there's going to be maintenance issues.

Dealing with magnetic or optical media alone would be a deterrent for me and CF card modifications really only make sense if you've own the machine for years, not something to buy in conjunction with a used one.
By WatchYoNuggets Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:09 pm
If you seriously with your beatmaking get rid of the 500, any other MPC would be a upgrade to that one IMO
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By Lampdog Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:34 pm
bedouin wrote:A sturdy build means nothing when a machine is close to 20 years old and will inevitability need repairs. It's like -- a 1975 Mercedes may have been well built, but it's had five owners, multiple patch jobs, and it's a pain to find parts for.


Well said.
By MPZ60 Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:03 pm
The 500 is a toy.. A rather fun toy but a toy none the less.. I have a 500, 2000 and the 3000 and there is no comparison really to a full sized mpc older or not... And I have been using my second hand 3000 for 12 years now and never had an issue ... 9 years on the 2000 and still going strong..
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By mesaone Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:39 pm
MPZ60 wrote:And as far as the 2000 classic goes.. This cat uses it with only 2mb of ram.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi2cPIsdanM


Howz that for features?


one thing to notice, is that his hands are FLYING. he knows that machine forwards and backwards, obviously. Thats a bad example unless the buyer is well-versed with the machine.
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By kneebone77 Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:06 am
MPZ60 wrote:Once you do get a 3000 you will know why there is such a following..

I wholeheartedly agree. But you should try to use one first, they are not 4 everyone.

WatchYoNuggets wrote:If you seriously with your beatmaking get rid of the 500, any other MPC would be a upgrade to that one IMO

Nah, not where the 2000 is concerned, even before getting old that MPC had issues and the worst sound IMHO.

If your new to MPC's and not really sure which way to go I'd suggest the 1000 or the 2500.
Best all round price to performance ratio. 8)
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By fatkyle Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:32 pm
while it is impossible to dissuade the stubborn that feel addictive desires to slander the mpc500, i'll stand up for it's usefulness. you can't **** with eight out's (it's true) but if you have any plans on taking the unit out of the studio, then obviously the 500 has some uncompromising features. i can see the larger machines being overrated and under used, and i can understand the need to talk shit by those that spent way more money on their machine than i did. in the end, i think you made the right decision by keeping the 500. let's face it. for someone who hasn't been using the 2000 for years, the 500 is a much more practical choice. that isn't to say it's a "better" machine, because that's totally subjective, it's just more practical. there's five producers in my crew. three use 2000xl's, one used an mpd, and i have an 1/2k. the guys that have the 2000's have had them for years. the guy with the mpd is mostly rockin' cubase. and i use modplug (software seq.) i got the 500 for live use, cause let's face the facts. nobody wants to gig out with a huge ass off white mpc2000. come on. seriously. you know what is a toy. one word, two letters, and a numeral. that's right... casio sk1 is a toy. and you cannot **** with a casio sk1.
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By kneebone77 Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:57 pm
fatkyle wrote:you know what is a toy?


Anyone claiming that the mpc-500 is a toy? 8)