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By Aster Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:43 pm
You can only trim by ear and numbers, you can't see the wave.

By MAD T Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:25 pm
people are lazy...it's not really that hard to trim by ear!! When I started, all I did was edit on a computer. I have found that editing by ear is not all that hard....I almost think it's better.

By Toecutter Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:35 pm
I try not to look at the waveform when I'm trimming on my 2k, but it's a hard habit to break. It is not hard to trim by ear, it's just tricky for some samples that sound busy to isolate specific parts... but it's not hard at all to do it.
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By trupro Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:00 pm
You know what man? The waveform displays on the 2000 and 2000XL are totally innacurate. They are just a reference point, but don;t reflect where the cut point is really at. That being said, I don't like just doing it with numbers, but that steeze definately gives you a different sound sometimes...

By Toecutter Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:47 pm
You can make the numbers go up and down with the fader knobs on the asr though right? That wouldn't be as bad as just punching in random numbers with the keypad like my yamaha tx16w

By MAD T Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:28 pm
Toecutter wrote:You can make the numbers go up and down with the fader knobs on the asr though right? That wouldn't be as bad as just punching in random numbers with the keypad like my yamaha tx16w


the data slider changes the sample number (fine), but can also change it by percent (coarse).

By Aster Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:16 pm
Trupro...
I always suspected that...
Do you know that for sure?
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By trupro Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:55 pm
Yeah, man. I used to own the 2000, so I thought it was just that. But every XL I have used has the same thing going on. What it seems like is, the transient at the begining of your start point is going to be sort-of accurate. Then, at the end of samples, it's worse. Lets say for example that you want to cut a sample from a kick, to right before the snare hits. You may end up cutting a good portion into the snare itself, and you won;t even hear it when you trigger the sample! I am sure you experienced that type of thing. I will say that it's a hell of alot less time consumiong than
cutting ish up with the ASR or the 950, both of which I enjoy using, regardless of the lack of waveform. Now that I have an XL, though, the ZONE slice function lets me fly through chopping, even quicker than using protools!